I've never used one, but i hear they are good quality
If you buy a retail packaged AMD processor you'll also get a HSF with it.
masterstevenx4Ok, i need some help switching from Intel to AMD, first of all i know i will need a new Mobo, second of all i dont know a single thing about Motherboards.
Right i really need help with is finding the best AMD Mobo and im trusing u guys on this one cause i dont know a thing about em... All I i need is the Mobo to be able to...
1. Be able to hold atleast 512MBX4 ram sticks at 400Mhz 2. Have an AGP slot for my X800 XT And i guess thats it....
Right now i pretty sure i want to get a 3800+ Venice core AMD proccessor (heard good things about them). But the cheapest one i could find is about 280 bucks off newegg. My budget is about $350 maybe 20 or 30 bucks more... But plz keep it as low as possible. Thx for help.
You might have a problem with your first requirement. A64's have their memory controller on die, therefore 4 sticks of ram will not be able to run at 400mhz if you buy an older core. Even the Newer Rev. E cores (venice, San diego) can only run 4 sticks of ram at 400mhz but at 2T. Some of the newer cores still can't handle 4 sticks, and to get he system stable they needed to be underclocked to 333mhz.
I'm planning on getting a 3700+ with a San Diego Core, and whats 2T? But i'd expect if a 3.0GHz P4 could run 4 sticks of ram, a 3700+ which is WAY better could....
Older Cores for the AMD only ran 4 Sticks of ram at 333mhz. The new ones fixed this problem. But even at 333mhz, mine are running at those speeds, you can not tell the difference at all. But I did get a hudge performance boost from going to 1GB to 2GB though, every thing runs faster.
Well when i first get the proccessor ill see how it goes with the 4 sticks at 400MHz and if it dosnt work out, ill tone them down a bit.
I have one last thing. What are with the X2 duel core proccessors? Are they much better? And will Duel Core be the future and should i pay the Extra $ to go with them instead? Because i was totally confused when i say a duel core proccessor (a X3800+ i think) and it was near the 400 buck range but its speed said 2GHz, so i was thinking "wtf!?"
With all honestly I would go dual core. But the problem with them they are a lot of money. For a good dual core for gaming your looking at $500. Its worth it because you would have 1 core running the game and the other core doing everything else thats running in the background ( OS, Messeging programs, music, Anti-Virus,). If you go dual core get at least a 4400+. Both of its cores run at speeds of a 3700+. So you will get 3700+ speeds in games. It is worth it.
The duel cores sound great then ill probably save up for the Duel cores because after seeing that games coming in the future such as UT 2007 are going to be optimized for duel core i would guess many others will be aswell. Ill save up with what i have now and all the money ill get from Parents/reletives during X-mas :p. I should have enough then, Thx for all the help guys.
looks like a great setup, i have similair and love it
Yes yes, don't u just hate that? in fact, I don't think they completely fixed that prob, I know that in some motherboards, when u insert 4 sticks, it disables dual channel....yes...that is also a problem