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#1 9 months ago

This is a really interesting read: https://medium.com/new-york-magazine/its-time-to-end-trending-28f59e415832




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#2 9 months ago

This site requires me to login to read their story and I can't be bothered.


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#3 9 months ago

I didn't have to log in...


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#5 9 months ago

Ah, well it's basically saying how the concept of "Trending" is quite a useless metric when compared to human curated lists as it lacks the context.


I tend to disagree, as his argument is based on very extreme examples like how Logan Paul's videos on YouTube were always trending.


The problem with trending I feel is that the algorithm is always hidden, mainly so people can't "game" the system, but it means you don't know WHY a certain piece of content is trending.


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#6 8 months ago

Hidden algorithms always mean that the ones responsible for it can do anything with it. They can sneak in pieces of content that aren't trending yet at all but which are pushing their agendas or the ones of well-paying others. It's basically an easy way to manipulate public opinion because what is on "trending" is shoved into everyone's face and automatically becomes trending even if it actually wasn't.

However even if the algorithm isn't hidden and no one can use it to make things artificially trending, it acts as a kind of social echo chamber. The things that people like is the thing that people see, therefore it is the thing that people like so it is the thing that people see, so it is... etc. New opinions are hard to get to people because they won't like it at first and therefore it's not trending and therefore not a lot of people see it.

This is a serious issue if the content is political news, but it's the same for entertaining content. If a group of people like one type of thing, then that is what's trending, however maybe they like something else more but never heard of it because they always see the first thing.

Trending allows for gradual changes by allowing new things to become trending if people like it on first glance. Like if cat videos are trending and now someone comes up with dog videos. But if cat videos are trending videos about horses aren't that likely to become trending, too. Although maybe the majority of people that are carrying the current "trending" are fine with cat videos, but would be more excited about horse videos.




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#7 8 months ago

Our own trending algorithm is based on a score which is generated based on whether or not you're logged in and you view or reply to a discussion.

So by me being logged in and replying to this discussion I'm increasing the trending score for this item exponentially more than if a guest just viewed it.


There's other things which I could do, for example user role integration where if a staff member replies the score is bumped more than if a regular member replies, but I feel that's overkill for now.


Trending also resets daily so it retains its freshness. Though its interesting to see that even though guests don't increase the score that much there's always this one topic at the top of trending. Probably because it's been viewed thousands of times by guests. 


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#8 7 months ago

Reddit, for all its grossness in layout (and people in certain corners) does occasionally do me a favor by bringing interesting things onto my radar.  That said, I don't really check it out myself insomuch as have friends who send me things they find on that site.  The trending there being supposedly binary of upvotes+newness rising to the cream of the site, with a wide variety of interest groups who share the enthusiasm of said post.

I've gotten very niche in what interests me these days however...

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