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Kilobyte

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#11 11 years ago

Yeah. That is another reason I don't like Windows. It appeals to the brain-dead, and the completely computer illiterate. Those who propagate viruses, and other malware throughout the internet.

RadioShackRob;4028774Quicktime Included! Windows offers WMP, as much as some people dislike it, I love WMP 11. It works great! And is the equivelant of iTunes and Quicktime combined! Apple offers two seperate programs, and for Quicktime, you have to pay an additional ammount just to get full screen playback! I know you can just download dvix, but its still an annoying hastle and truth.[/quote] I don't use WMP, or iTunes. They rub me the wrong way. I use Quicktime for Apple.com/trailers. The video quality is good, and I'm not bothered by the lack of full screen. I just lower the resolution of my desktop. I also buy widescreen DVDs for a Full Screen Tube TV.

My favorite media players are MusicMatch Jukebox 7 (Commando Theme), and XMMS. Lite, simple, to the point. I require MP3 playback, playlist shuffling, and a minimum of fifty themes available.

Actually, add tabbed web browsing, Flash media support, OpenGL acceleration, a good firewall, and no risk of not being able to reinstall, and you have my current requirements for an Operating System. DirectX capabilities are a plus. [QUOTE=RadioShackRob;4028774]I could go on, and on, and on.... but I will wrap it up with my own experiences!

Yeah, you could. I do agree with you about those iPods. :rolleyes:

Besides, iPods are too common. I use things because they are different. Something unique, something "Me".

Customization is the most important feature for me. The second is worry free computing.

Back in the day, Windows 98, was Windows 98. You saw one system, you saw them all. Many had different wallpaper, but still. When I got a hold of MacOS 8, it was like a dream. So completely different, and easy to use. the right-click was a bit inefficient, but more stylish. Internet Explorer 5.5 for Mac OS is Gorgeous. I hate that M$ pulled it, hopefully it is still on my old PowerMac...

Apple is Evil, Bill Gates is the anti-christ, and Google wants to rule the world. Linus Torvalds is the chosen one who will lead us to freedom! :D




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#12 11 years ago
iTunes monopoly Face it, iPods + iTunes is a monopoly. Ever try to get any other mp3 player to work on iTunes? HA! Not to mention on Apple computers you are restricted to iTunes (less you have bootcamp). And all that music you download to iTunes off of their store (which appears to be 10 cents per song more expensive then the compition to begin with) is restricted to your iTunes and iPod. And your iPod must go through iTunes anyway to begin with.

You can download Windows Media Player 9 for OSX, trust me, the icon is sitting right here in my dock. I don't use the iTunes store, but i use iTunes to manage my music collection, and it is much nicer to use and much better at what is does that WMP is.

Upgrade discounts for next gen OS Remember how for a long time before Vista's release you were able to purchase upgrade discounts for xp for Vista's eventual release? Or how some builders supplied free upgrades! Not with Apple, users were forced to pay full retail price on its release.

So? They expect you to pay for a new OS release and your acting like its out of the orinary? I should note, OSX is much cheaper that Windows is. You can buy a full retial copy of OSX 10.5 for $130.

Fan die in that iBook/MacBook/PowerBook? Oh thats fine, no matter how good you are with laptops, your unable to replace that fan. Apple will simply tell you they are unable to order those parts, but would be happy to force you to a little trip to their store, a 2 hour drive from where i'm at, so you can pay for the repairs and then they would be happy to buy the parts for you! YAY!

All computers are going to have a problem area. Little things like that happen with PC's all the time, its just that when it happens to a PC is not made out to be such a big deal because most PC brands do not have the image of reliability that Macs have. No computer is perfect, Macs and PC's both. I had a PowerBook, and i never had a single problem with it. I have a Powermac which i'm using right now, and have never had a problem with it. I also own a Dell PC, and a eMachine, and i can't even begin to list the amount of hassle they have given me.

Buying a new HDD for that laptop of yours? Have fun installing it. I have taken apart dells, gateways, toshibas, and of course, apples. Out of them all, they are all a pain, all difficult, but the PC platforms always make some kind of sense! Apple prefers to hide screws with silly magnets that should not be there to begin with, glue power buttons on to the board rather then soldering them, and placing the wire and connector with about a half inch of leeway when taking it apart, so that when you pull that little guy apart! SHOOT! CONNECTOR PULLS RIGHT OFF! That was a lot of fun to solder back on...was successful though, thank god.

Apple's are not hard to work on. I had my Powerbook apart before and it was not complicated at all. In fact, the HDD was one of the easist things to work with. I have never seen a PC case made as well as my PowerMac G4 case is. Everything is easy to get to, and the way the case opens makes it extremely easy to work on. You do not have to take a Apple somewhere to get it worked on for probably 90% of what you would need to do. Its just like working on a PC, all the parts are the same, just with some different names. And i have to say, i have never seen anything like what your talking about with magnets and glue?

And what are PC, I restate, PC games designed for? WINDOWS! We have so much trouble on my friends Core 2 MacBook, starcraft fails to launch on XP. PLEASE!

Of course PC games are going to be designed for Windows.... If you have a Mac, you play the Mac versions of the games. And yes, many games do have Mac version available. Why not run the Mac version of Starcraft on that Macbook? Really, any G3 of faster can play it with ease.

And the reason why PC/Windows is the dominant platform? Price and quantity. Thats really what it comes down to. PC's are made by more companys than i can count, and can be built and bought much cheaper than any Mac because of it. The reason that Macs are more expensive is that there is only one company making them.

you have to pay an additional ammount just to get full screen playback! I know you can just download dvix, but its still an annoying hastle and truth.

WTF are you talking about? Just hit Command+F (in OSX) and you get full screen playback.

I bought my iBook, and from the start hardware began to fail; my board was dead almost immediatly. I brought it into a Mac store for my warranty, and it was replaced. It took them two full months to return my iBook to me. My battery was in that recall list we all remember, that took a month and a half; and after a few more months, my fan died on me. My iBook has brought me far more problems then any PC. Avoid them at all costs

I can say the same thing about my Mac. Any of my Macs have never given me any problems, none of the macs my friends have (one has like 15 Macs) have never given them any real problems. You just happened to buy one of the less reliable models. The ibook, old iMacs, and eMacs are some of the worst for reliability.

Now i'm not a total Apple fan. There are plenty of things i dislike about them, but they are my prefered system. I do own two PC's, and do all of my gaming on my PC, but when i'm not gaming, my Mac is always powered on.

Something else i would like to point out is that Macs have alot longer lifespan than your average PC does. Look at the system requirements for Vista, then look at OSX 10.5. You only need a G4 867Mhz and 512MB ram to run it, and 10.4 can be ran on anything way back to the G3's. My Powermac G4 733Mhz running OSX 10.4.10 "feels" just as fast and just as responsive on the desktop than my PC running a P4 3.0Ghz / 2GB with Vista does. Ask pretty much any Mac user that has used both OSes for a long time, they will tell you the same thing.

But still:

Linux > OSX > Windows




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#13 11 years ago

I really don't think you're going to achieve anything Rob by creating a rantwagon site against Apple. Sure they have an egotistical corporate mentality and some of their products and policies are far from perfect, but Microsoft is well within that description in many ways too. I hate iTunes too, it being required to load songs is the main reason I'm against iPods in general. I also don't like Apple's music store in general, nothing but overpriced low quality 128 bit songs. Compare them to Musicmatch (now Yahoo Music) and you get lower bit rate for a higher price and not really any better slection when you consider all the crap filler artists/songs they have. Quicktime is not as good as Media Player even if it's full version were included free and the Apple audio codec just doesn't compare to wmv. On the other hand OS X is a far better, more stable operating system than ANY Windows version, ESPECIALLY Vista, which MS tried desperately to copy the look of OS X with. In fact, after reading an interview with one of the MS employees that worked on Vista, it was apparent the main reason there are so many problems with it is they had numerous board meetings where they scrapped all the work that had been done just to change the look. OK, let's talk about service and restrictions. Apple has indeed had problems with some of their product, namely early models of the iBook Pro most recently. They did resolve them however and those whom own them rave about them. They restrict their OS to their hardware only but in their defense what would it become if they didn't, another bloated, sluggish OS like Windows. MS has had similar issues with hardware problems, most notably with their Xbox 360. How many of you out there haven't heard the expression Red Ring of Death? Though they've stepped up with repairs and extended warranties, they haven't doen the one thing Apple would have and that's get the hardware right. They are still poorly ventilated and the CPU cooler inadequate for hardcore gaming sessions. MS does not restrict what hardware their OS can be put on but they DO heavily restrict hardware changes for a given OS license AND upgrade paths to Vista. I still can't believe they offer those with XP Home more upgrade options than those with XP Pro. Of course there are lots more factors to consider, but the main point is if you're going to start a rantwagon site against a major corporation you need to carefully consider all the negatives of their competition and that essentially there is no such thing as a perfect world. Better to leave well enough alone then start a project that will leave you swimming in a perpetual sea of back and forth arguments and potentially get you in trouble with your employer. RS does after all do a fair amount of biz with Apple, which of course helps pay your wages. ;)




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#14 11 years ago

I don't have a mac, nor am I ever likely to.

However, its got nothing to do with your rant. I don't agree with half of it for a start. In my opinion the mac is a much better platform than windows, and I wish more people would get away from windows. As an IT tech I have noticed over the years that the amount I end up supporting home users tends to vary in direct proportion to the amount of microsoft software they use. Other than a blown power supply I don't think i have ever been asked to look at a problem with a mac.

Windows with IE, OE media player and ms anti spyware? trust me, they cause a hell of a headache. Change that to FX TB, any other media player and adaware personal and watch the amount they come back to you for help.

Your entire complaint about the IPOD is about the battery. 1000 charges at one a day is about 3 years lifetime. I suspect after 3 years the thing will be obselete anyway however apple do offer a battery replacement program. Its not designed to be changed by the user.

Itunes uses DRM because they have to. Steve jobs did an open letter some while ago saying that, and asking that the studios consider not using DRM. Complain at the media companies who make them use DRM, not apple.

The price for the apple OS is an upgrade. You can't do anything BUT upgrade with it because you need the mac first.

And oh, upgrading laptops is difficult. Wow, clever! Its a small design thats not really meant to be messed with. Especially not apple ones because apple want you to use their hardware. I don't see that as a bad thing as many PC problems are to do with third party driver issues.

But yeah, go ahead and start your website. I take it that knowing what your doing your going to hand code the HTML? Or, with complete ignorance of how to design a website are you going to use a default template in frontpage?




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#15 11 years ago

well talking about ipods, mine is just failing at the moment, its says all the time, go to ipod supports. mmmmh! but dont do or make a website against apple, it will give you problems.




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#16 11 years ago

EO Violation;4028784So you had a bad experience.

Good for you.

I've had nothing but good experiences with Apple and their people. Simply because you had some negative shit doesn't mean you should go around slandering the name of the company.

Sure he can. It's called freedom of speech. While it's not a right on these forums, I do allow such content on these forums. You could make a post boasting your love for apple and how much windows sucks and it would be the same for you as well.

He has every right to speak his mind about a company he hates.


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#17 11 years ago

n0e;4029241... You could make a post boasting ... how much windows sucks...

He has every right to speak his mind about a company he hates.

There we go. :D

Nearly every other computer geek hates Microsoft, so it would kind of be a double standard to allow everybody to bash Microsoft, and not bash Apple.

My biggest problem with people who bash Apple, do not realize the potential harm that they are going to cause. Apple was the only real competition Microsoft has ever had, until Linux. Even now, many believe that Apple is still the only real competition that Microsoft has. If you defame the competitors, you are adding to an already bad situation. You are aiding the Microsoft monopoly, and reducing freedom of choice. History has shown that this leads to decreased security.




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#18 11 years ago

eh.. I'm still very much against Apple. They have this smug attitude as if their shit doesn't stink, when in reality their business practices for customer service are horrid. At least Microsoft understands that if you piss off the customers that's less people to buy your product.

An example comparative view would be how Apple handled users with iphones who didn't want to use the monopolistic package they created with ATT compared to microsofts dealing with the xbox360 issue of the red ring of death. Who handled that issue better and who acted like a complete asshole? Microsoft extended their warranty and made it as easy as possible to exchange the defective xbox's losing billions in revenue doing so. Apple told those that were bricked by the iphone's update that used other programs or unlocked phones (which is totally within the legal right of the buyer) on it to 'buy a new phone'.

My previous post was not intended to defend apple lovers, but show that while my personal opinion is obviously biased against them for reasons I feel are completely justified, I'm not going to restrict content and will try to keep the overall policy here unbiased towards either one.


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#19 11 years ago
n0e;4029433...and will try to keep the overall policy here unbiased towards either one.

Say WHAT, unbiased, You must be joking nOe? Everything you say about Apple is in bashing them whilst you use somewhat embellished examples to defend MS. The primary example of which I can think of right now is your implying MS fixed the Xbox 360. It needed more than some "defective units" replaced, it wasn't designed well to begin with. I appreciate you letting people speak their mind but I think it's time to admit you are indeed very biased about Apple vs MS. ;) See what you started Rob.:rolleyes:




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#20 11 years ago

EO Violation;4028799All of my experience, and all of the experiences of my family and friends with Apple computers, directly contradicts what you have to say.

Looks like you got a rotten apple, pun intended.

I'm sorry, but you mentioned 4 products and that you've had 3 problems? Do you really think that's acceptable?