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Nitegriffin

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#1 10 years ago

Ok Lads, I'm experiencing a very strange problem lately on my PC...I've updated my VGA driver to ATi Catalyst 9.1 and found that I cannot watch to any movies/videos in any players...Tried to downgrade to 8.12 Catalyst, but same problem occured...Oh, the problem: instead of the video, all i can see is a blue standstill image which fills in the player. The timestamp indicates that the videos is playing, sound can be heard.

I've discovered, when i turn off 'Overlay mixing' in the Video Output preferences, the 'blue standstill image' issue disappears and video can be seen properly. The problem with that is, as far as i know Overlay mixing for Video output means hardware (VGA) accelerating, when the video player utilizes the full capabilities of the gfx card. So it seems like my gfx card is faulty, so applications cannot use it anymore. This problem never happened before Catalyst 8.7, but i needed to update to a newer version because of better framerates in certain games. Also, Catalyst 8.12 works fine on the very same PC with another install of Win XP on an other HDD.

Is anyone experiencing the same problem with never versions of ATi Catalyst (above v8.7) ? Or does someone know how could I enable 'Overlay mixing' without causing this problem? Is Overlay mixing important at all to be enabled?

(I thought my codec pack could be the problem, but i use the very same pack for more than 3yrs w/o any problems so far....bad luck that i cannot unistall it, the proccess displayes error and unistalling is aborted)

Help is appreciated as always!




ConstanceJill

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#2 10 years ago

Hi there ^^

Did you try with several video players ? Which codec pack do you have and what is the error when you try to uninstall it ?

ATI drivers rely much on the .NET Framework, did you try updating it (if any further updates are available) ?




Nitegriffin

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#3 10 years ago

Hi Costance, yes, I've tried several players, mostly multi-platform players like VideoLan's VLC, GOM Player, Media Player Classic... I have ACE Mega Codec Pack ProXP which is said terrible creepy and buggy, but I've never experienced any problems. I get the following error message upon unistall:

Error Number: 0x80040707 Description:

After it, new window pops up, saying: Access Denied

The error number seems like a RAM memory reference, the 'access denied' suggests i don't have admit rights, which is not true. Well, I have .Net Framework 2.0 SP1, if I'm correct there's 3.0 but maybe for developers...will look it up...




ConstanceJill

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#4 10 years ago

Well, it seems like you have two systems... do both have that codec pack ? If not, try installing your codec pack on the other system BUT monitor it using TotalUninstall (version 1.34 should be the latest freeware one, it's still available if you look for it). Then you may try uninstalling it from the other system using Total Uninstall's data file on that system. Then you'll be free to try another codec pack (I'd recommend CCCP, since I've been told it's the best by some guy I consider trustworthy for anything about digital video ^^).

Also, I'm quite surprised you experience the same problem with VLC, as it doesn't rely on codec packs... give a try to the KM Player maybe ? This one, like VLC, uses its own plug-ins, and also has many options about video output modes.




Nitegriffin

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#5 10 years ago

Yeah, I have two HDDs with diff XP installs, diff stuffs on them...The other has K-Lite codec pack, and Catalyst 8.12 and this problem doesn't show up there...:uhm: I'll try that TotalUnistall if all else fails, thanks! I'm going to install .Net Framework 2 SP2, then boot up in safe mode, maybe i'll be able to unistall the codec pack this way. Only thing which confuses me that I've never had problems with it, as I've said it already. Yup, VLC surprised me too. But the Video output mode should has nothing to do with codec packs...Am i wrong? CCCP is already DLed.




Nitegriffin

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#6 10 years ago

Hmm....SP2 for .Net Framework didn't help, nor safe mode boot up, i couldn't unistall the pack even there....I'm afraid that i won't be able to uninstall the pack once i've installed it on the other HDD (just like from this one) and two packs there will most likely screw up things....




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#7 10 years ago

Barring the presence of any suspect codecs like porn sites use, the mainstream codec that usually causes problems is ffmpeg. The latest K-Lite packs are supposed to automatically disable it when conflicting programs are launched.

You can access the list of your installed video codecs in XP via right clicking the speaker icon in the taskbar, clicking Adjust Audio Properties, clicking the Hardware tab, then scroll down to Video Codecs. Now click Properties, then Properties again on the next page.

You can also access this via the Sounds and Audio Devices icon in Control Panel if you for some reason don't have the speaker icon in the taskbar.

It could be however that the latest ATI driver has conflict issues with one or more of the codecs you have installed, so I would recommend reading the driver release notes for Cat 9.1.




ConstanceJill

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#8 10 years ago
Nitegriffin;4798342Hmm....SP2 for .Net Framework didn't help, nor safe mode boot up, i couldn't unistall the pack even there....I'm afraid that i won't be able to uninstall the pack once i've installed it on the other HDD (just like from this one) and two packs there will most likely screw up things....

Install it in a clean virtual machine then. If you monitor the install using TotalUninstall, there should be nothing preventing you to remove it, except maybe locked files — which should be manageable using Unlocker.




Nitegriffin

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#9 10 years ago

>Omen<;4798362Barring the presence of any suspect codecs like porn sites use, the mainstream codec that usually causes problems is ffmpeg. The latest K-Lite packs are supposed to automatically disable it when conflicting programs are launched.

You can access the list of your installed video codecs in XP via right clicking the speaker icon in the taskbar, clicking Adjust Audio Properties, clicking the Hardware tab, then scroll down to Video Codecs. Now click Properties, then Properties again on the next page.

You can also access this via the Sounds and Audio Devices icon in Control Panel if you for some reason don't have the speaker icon in the taskbar.

It could be however that the latest ATI driver has conflict issues with one or more of the codecs you have installed, so I would recommend reading the driver release notes for Cat 9.1.[/quote] I ran thru release note of Cat 9.1 only for major possible conflicts, so I could miss an article realting to my current problem, will give it a shot again. Am i supposed to recognize a 'suspicious' codec in the list? Hmmm, by 1st look, they seem to be OK. Most of 'em originated from the codec pack, a few from other brands like sony, panasonic, toshiba, asus, fraps.

Should I remove all codecs from the list if I cannot uninstall the codec pack itself? Strange thing is, i cannot see FFMpeg in the list, tho i have FFdshow instlled... And there's a quote: 'Don't try to fix things which aren't broken'...I can handle the problem by selecting other Video output mode than Overlay Mixing if all else fails...But it could be easily a conflict issue with Cat + codec pack, indeed. [quote=ConstanceJill;4798456]Install it in a clean virtual machine then. If you monitor the install using TotalUninstall, there should be nothing preventing you to remove it, except maybe locked files — which should be manageable using Unlocker.

Honestly, i don't know how to set up a virtual machine, but it seems the imput efferts doesn't equals with the output price...:uhm:




ConstanceJill

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#10 10 years ago

Still should be faster than reformating and reinstalling your main system ^^'




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