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The Typer

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#1 10 years ago

Hi guys,

I plan on buying this video card sometime soon. I obviously have an AGP system, and after keeping watch on the reviews I know about the driver problem related to using ATI's drivers online.

My issue here is related to a review stating that it does not support Direct3D, which troubles me since I play the Half-Life series, and plenty of other games I play from what I know run on DirectX. I really don't want to buy this card and wind up losing the ability to play half the games I own.

So what I would appreciate from you guys is a little help, as usual. I looked into a forum, a google search, and some other resources and still drew a blank. I want to know if anyone else has experienced this problem, fixed it, or if anyone can find something I never found that could help.

Thanks guys.




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#2 10 years ago

My god... A video card without D3D in this time and age? How strange. Is it simply a movie watching card, or what's the deal with it? As for your question, those games won't run without DirectX, which is why many games actually include the newest version of DirectX with the installation. Unless your computer is capable of DirectX without the card (i have honestly no clue how that works, might be the stupidest thing i said in ages), the games won't run.




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#3 10 years ago

For that price, rather than the HD2600PRO ($127), I would highly recommend you go with the X1950GT instead ($130). Regardless of being a bit older and half the memory, it's still a much better/faster card.

Here's a Tom's Chart with the two cards highlighted. (GT is about 20% better)

SAPPHIRE ATI Radeon X1950GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 8X

It should run the half life/source engine and other games fine (great actually). Though I think your original choice would as well, I'm not sure what the review was referring to aside from the known ATI/nvidia strengths/weaknesses.




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#4 10 years ago

So tell me because now i'm drowning in curiosity, what will the replacement for DirectX be?




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#5 10 years ago

It has Direct 3D, it just sounds like the drivers won't work correctly, typical of the ATI stuff I've worked with.

And I don't think there will be a replacement for DirectX, although, I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about.




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#6 10 years ago

I belive there should be a 7900gt for agp somewhere..




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#7 10 years ago

Metall_pingwin;4056249My god... A video card without D3D in this time and age? How strange. Is it simply a movie watching card, or what's the deal with it?[/quote]

It's a gaming card, and I bet it can do all that usual movie stuff. It's not that it doesn't have D3D support, I think that would be really dumb of Visiontek, but their card isn't using it or something. That's why I'm here partially, to find out the exact problem and why, and how to solve it before I buy it.

[quote=Oblivious;4056254]For that price, rather than the HD2600PRO ($127), I would highly recommend you go with the X1950GT instead ($130). Regardless of being a bit older and half the memory, it's still a much better/faster card.

Here's a Tom's Chart with the two cards highlighted. (GT is about 20% better)

SAPPHIRE ATI Radeon X1950GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 8X

It should run the half life/source engine and other games fine (great actually). Though I think your original choice would as well, I'm not sure what the review was referring to aside from the known ATI/nvidia strengths/weaknesses.

I don't buy video cards often, I'm still running an ATI All in Wonder 9600 128MB, and I have used it very well. But I know in the next few years Vista is going to become more stable, DX 10 will be used more in PC games, and I figured buying a DX 10 card would keep me set for the next while. Sure, there's already 3800s or whatever for ATI but I know how to manager video cards in a good manor so I can make it last. And updating everything just to get a PCI-E card is kind of pointless since support for AGP is still going. I was actually thinking about that card, except it would be the Visiontek version, which is supposed to be really well made. But when I visited their site and saw the DX 10 AGP cards and the required PSU (I only have a 380 Watt) I figured I should jump at the chance as long as the price is good (and it is).




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#8 10 years ago

The problem is that DX10 has already been upgraded to DX10.1 which will only run on the 9 series, unless you already have Vista, wait until you actually get it to buy a video card.

If you want an answer as to why the card is having problems - it is because some of the drivers screw up and the drivers for that card are some of those having problems. I've only used older ATI integrated video and I've always had problems, they may in time create better drivers, but who knows then that will be.




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#9 10 years ago

EpicLoad;4056671The problem is that DX10 has already been upgraded to DX10.1 which will only run on the 9 series, unless you already have Vista, wait until you actually get it to buy a video card.

If you want an answer as to why the card is having problems - it is because some of the drivers screw up and the drivers for that card are some of those having problems. I've only used older ATI integrated video and I've always had problems, they may in time create better drivers, but who knows then that will be.

Just want to clarify...the video card will not run on Windows XP users since it uses DX 10.1 so you need Vista? And DX10.1 only runs on HD2900 cards (PCI-E) and up?

This may sound a little stubborn, and no offnese, I just want to know how you know so I don't wind up going with a lower range video card because of improper evidence. Sorry, I just want to make sure.

And if this is all true, anyone know about problems with the HD2400s (Visiontek would be my choice because of low pricing)? I know Visiontek's drivers are not supported by the ATI catalyst drivers, so I would have to go with the CD included or Visiontek's beta Catalysts at their site, but any other problems like the one in the card I was looking at?




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justincase3;4058231Just want to clarify...the video card will not run on Windows XP users since it uses DX 10.1 so you need Vista? And DX10.1 only runs on HD2900 cards (PCI-E) and up?

This may sound a little stubborn, and no offnese, I just want to know how you know so I don't wind up going with a lower range video card because of improper evidence. Sorry, I just want to make sure.

And if this is all true, anyone know about problems with the HD2400s (Visiontek would be my choice because of low pricing)? I know Visiontek's drivers are not supported by the ATI catalyst drivers, so I would have to go with the CD included or Visiontek's beta Catalysts at their site, but any other problems like the one in the card I was looking at?

A video card with DirectX 10.1 can run on XP, you will only be able to get up to DX9, in order to utilize the card's abilities of DX10.1, you will need Vista. And the HD2900 doesn't have 10.1 support, last I heard only the nVidia 9 series will. As for how I know, I listen to what Omen, n0e, Oblivious and everyone else says, even if I don't respond to a thread, I'll usually read it to see what's up. I trust these guys to have a very in-depth knowledge. If you ever have a question on what video card is best, just do what you did in this case, I'm sure a lot of us will be more than happy to help. And for the HD2400, they don't look to be that great of a card, the 64-bit interface is a little too slow for gaming.