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crisissuit3

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#1 11 years ago

Recently I've been trying to record Dawn of war II with fraps and the videos are redicously big. (but not as big as valve stuff) So I record with Fraps and compress it using virtualdub with the m4peg codec I think. After its all compressed I try to edit it with Sony vegas and all I get is the audio, no video. So I try to compress it with Vdub, render it in WMM and then render it in Vegas. its good but it doubles the time needed to make a video. So why wont Vdub's video work with Sony vegas?




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#2 11 years ago

If you have audio but no video the problem is usually a missing codec. You could try determining the exact codec of the file you're trying to import (there is freeware for that, I think it is called g-spot) then look for plugins for your software that imports this codec.




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#3 11 years ago

Did you render the audio as well as the video file? There is separate settings on how to do this.

Here is a youtube video I found, it helped me out a bit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBwxpV6-9vo

Other than that I can't offer much help, if anything I would probably learn from what others have to say.:P




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#4 11 years ago

If you're by chance using Xvid for your Mpeg 4 codec, that is your problem. Xvid is loosely based on DivX (thus the backwards naming), but open source and not well supported by retail editors like Vegas, or even Elements and Premier Pro for that matter.

I suggest reconfiguring your Fraps capture setting if the files seem too big. You don't need any higher capture setting than to get adequate gameplay with. 30 - 40 FPS is a typical range. Also, why not just take the Fraps clips straight to Vegas and edit and compress them there?

Another option is to edit in VDub and do a direct stream copy, which will save added audio and edited video without increasing video file size. Then take it to a compression tool like AutoMKV where you can use x264, Xvid, etc. If you want full editing features though, VDub won't cut it for that.




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#5 11 years ago
MrFancypants;5210712If you have audio but no video the problem is usually a missing codec. You could try determining the exact codec of the file you're trying to import (there is freeware for that, I think it is called g-spot) then look for plugins for your software that imports this codec.[/QUOTE] I mean I can view it normally with things like media player and windows movie maker, but it wont play the video in sony vegas.
Snow_Flake;5210743Did you render the audio as well as the video file? There is separate settings on how to do this. Here is a youtube video I found, it helped me out a bit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBwxpV6-9vo Other than that I can't offer much help, if anything I would probably learn from what others have to say.:P
actually this is the first video I found when I was looking for how to compress video. [QUOTE=>Omen<;5210962]If you're by chance using Xvid for your Mpeg 4 codec, that is your problem. Xvid is loosely based on DivX (thus the backwards naming), but open source and not well supported by retail editors like Vegas, or even Elements and Premier Pro for that matter. I suggest reconfiguring your Fraps capture setting if the files seem too big. You don't need any higher capture setting than to get adequate gameplay with. 30 - 40 FPS is a typical range. Also, why not just take the Fraps clips straight to Vegas and edit and compress them there? Another option is to edit in VDub and do a direct stream copy, which will save added audio and edited video without increasing video file size. Then take it to a compression tool like AutoMKV where you can use x264, Xvid, etc. If you want full editing features though, VDub won't cut it for that.

fraps is set to half screen with 25 fps. its just the rather bad coding for games like left 4 dead and dawn of war II. and I could try to render it in vegas first but that usually means an hour of waiting for it to render when it could be at least half that with Vdub.




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#6 11 years ago
crisissuit3;5211301fraps is set to half screen with 25 fps. its just the rather bad coding for games like left 4 dead and dawn of war II. and I could try to render it in vegas first but that usually means an hour of waiting for it to render when it could be at least half that with Vdub.

OK, so capture setting obviously isn't the cause of the huge file size. Huge is a relative term though. I think you'll find that other capture programs such as PlayClaw and Camtasia actually produce larger file sizes than Fraps when set to uncompressed mode. It's huge compared to GameCam, which I've also used, but GameCam compresses the captures, so it's not an apples to apples comparison.

True, retail editors are more bloated with their features and not nearly as efficient time wise. The retail editor I like most is Adobe. I've tried both Elements and Premier Pro and they are faster and have better contrast and sharpen filters than Vegas. Still slower than VDub, but not as horribly so.




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#7 11 years ago
crisissuit3;5211301I mean I can view it normally with things like media player and windows movie maker, but it wont play the video in sony vegas.

Then sony vegas probably doesn't know the codec of the file you're trying to open. If that is the case you can look for a vegas-plugin to support the codec or change the codec of the file you're trying to import to one that is supported by sony vegas.




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#8 11 years ago

If he's using Xvid, which he's yet to answer, he's not likely going to have success with a retail editor. Even retail editors that show Xvid as a compression option once you install the codec lack the stability to encode with it properly. The general rule of thumb is retail tools don't work well with open source ones when it comes to video editing/compressing.




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#9 11 years ago

Let me check...

yep xvid mpeg4 codec.




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#10 11 years ago

Yep, thought so, the no video problem is common in retail editors with Xvid. It's the 2nd best video codec next to x/H264, but unfortunately you have limited choices on what editors to encode with when using it.