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Mr. Pedantic

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#121 12 years ago
and just as a general upgrade.

So you would upgrade to vista just for the sake of it? :confused:

Vista in my eyes is an OS which was meant to push hardware accelerators and better hardware into office PCs and that's the crux of the issue.

That is a good point, though. It has led to the popularization of more advanced hardware, which sort of benefits me (since I'm the sort of guy who would buy a laptop or computer with Vista and then strip the OS off and install another one that I like better).




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#122 12 years ago

XP on my desktop, Vista on lappy.

I'm satisfied with both.




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#123 12 years ago

Why are you satisfied? Is one better than the other or are they equal?

Details book, details!




Sgt. D. Pilla

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#124 12 years ago
You do know that I used XP for three years without an active protection suite and just Window's Firewall (which a lot of people say is worthless anyway), and I never actually got an infection of any sort? Which sort of proves the point that if you're smart with what you do, all those things are relatively unneeded.

Yeah, I also use a protectuion suite, but do you know how many people don't have any anti virus protection. Atleat vista comes with it out of the box, to some extent that is




Chocu1a

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#125 12 years ago

I agree that both os's are fine. They both do exactly what they were made to do. People will always prefer what they know best. In most cases, that is the familiar XP. I really never had any huge problem with XP. But let me tell you, this...things that impressed me most in Vista were the small things. I can copy 46 gigs from one hdd to another in under 15 minutes in Vista. I tried the same thing in XP. any folders over 6 gigs would hard lock my XP system requiring a re-boot. I did find a hot-fix on MS, but the tranfser time was still over 45 minutes. I can convert avi files over 1 gig to dvd with fully animated menus & chapters in 25 minutes. It would take almost an hour in XP.




The-Bleh-Bleh

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#126 12 years ago
Count_ChalkulaEvery, yes, every single program opens up quicker in Vista. So...side by side on my pc...Vista runs better. Fact. It seems we are both proving our opinions. [/quote] I can't understand how that is possible. It's not like the way you can open programs can be that streamlined. Are you sure your XP installation wasn't just cluttered with crap?

Chocolaty CountsicleCan Vista do everything XP can do...straight out of the box? Yes. Can XP do everything Vista can do... straight out of the box? No[/quote] Uh. My point is that I don't care about what it can do, I care about what it does do consistently, and efficiently.

Sgt. D. Pilla;4560370Count, you just need to accept that those that hate vista hate it because their computer can't run it like it can run XP, and they are afraid of change. ... Everyone is misinformed about Vista, its only those that bother to look into whats behind the OS, that can see why Vista is indeed faster/better then XP. [/quote] Please step off your pedestal for a moment and consider the fact that we all have brains. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm misinformed.

Sgt. D. Pilla Has anybody here considered networking side of things? Nobody can say XP is better at that, especially if they've ever googled it, Vista wins with ease each time. Its faster and more stable with networking, rather then the entire explorer process crashing, it may crash a single window of explorer.

Yeah, it's certainly faster with networking, and I agree it's nice they fixed the window lock up issue. However, there are networking problems that really bother me.

I constantly have experience with 3 Vista computers at LANs. There are always major network compatibility issues between Vista and XP. The constant problem we get is that the Vista computer won't host shared folders to networked XP computers. The second problem we get is that the Vista computer can't access certain XP computers at all, seemingly at random. Eventually, we found a way to get one Vista computer to network perfectly. We tried the same thing on a second Vista computer. File sharing worked for literally 2 minutes, then never worked again. In short, Vista networking is better with speed and ease of use, but only with other Vista computers. I find it incredibly unstable networking with XP. Just another Vista compatibility problem that I find annoying.

[quote=Sgt. D. Pilla] Then suddenly, everyone who started using Vista for themselves, on a system that meet its minimum requirements and used it for more then a day, started to realize that hey, its not that bad. Then most of them turned into Vista fan boys, those that didn't, are the only ones that had a valid right to not like Vista.

At first I was neutral. Then my sister got a Vista laptop for college, a 2GHz Core 2, 3GB RAM, Nvidia 8400. Does that meet the minimum requirements? I used it for a few weeks before she left to college.

I did all the setting up of Vista because my sister is a techtard. After going through all the annoying configuration, removal of trials and other manufacturer junk, all seemed to work well. However, the thing that really bothered me was no matter what I did, Vista felt cluttered.

Anyway, I went to run Internet Explorer. After about 5 minutes of use, for some reason the internet explorer window started spamming itself with blank tabs until I killed the process. Surprising, considering this is straight out of the box. Service pack 1 did not solve the issue. Nothing would. The problem still happens today, and my friend has the exact same issue. How can such a big problem that is right in front of you not be fixed? Next, I went to install Avast and Comodo. Disabling Vista features shouldn't have been so tedious. It's hard to understand why basic tasks become point and click adventure games.

***As I finished that paragraph, my sister called me. She's suddenly getting errors whenever she tries to connect to her college network.***

Anyway, I think that wraps it up. I didn't leave the adventure feeling a sense of accomplishment, I left with a pulsing anger, along with the thought in the back of my head it would have been a snap in XP. That is why I hate Vista. It's traumatization, that's what it is.

[quote=Sgt. D. Pilla] Vistas bad Rep all started because of a few tight ass people who tried running Vista on 100MB ram bitched that their PCs were slow, then everyone who didn't have Vista, and hadn't used it, including myself started saying it was shit... Then suddenly, everyone who started using Vista for themselves, on a system that meet its minimum requirements and used it for more then a day, started to realize that hey, its not that bad. Then most of them turned into Vista fan boys, those that didn't, are the only ones that had a valid right to not like Vista. That means anyone who hasn't used Vista for more then a 2 weeks, and have used it on <512MB ram, have NO right to say its a crappy OS.

Sgt. D. Pilla, you're missing the real story. If a catnip product worked great on most cats, but spontaneously killed certain ones, how would you feel about the product? You see an ad on TV for a brand new catnip product, called Sivta. It's advertised as the best. Soon, everyone uses Sivta. You decide you should buy some for Mr. Bigglesworth. The next day, you wake up to learn Mr. Bigglesworth is dead. Somehow you missed the label that states "WARNING: May cause adverse side effects to cats over 1 year in age, or any of the following........." How would that make you feel? Do you like the new catnip product anymore? Oh wait, it gets better. The next day some guy on the street points and laughs at you as you carry your dead cat, even though you know his cat on drugs is just as useless as yours. =p

Good. Now let's get to the truth.

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[quote=Sgt. D. Pilla] [COLOR=Red]Sivtas[/COLOR] bad Rep all started because of a few tight ass people who tried using [COLOR=Red]Sivta[/COLOR] on their 2 year old [COLOR=Red]cats[/COLOR] bitched that their [COLOR=Red]cats[/COLOR] were slow, then everyone who didn't have [COLOR=Red]Sivta,[/COLOR] and hadn't used it, including myself started saying it was shit... Then suddenly, everyone who started using [COLOR=Red]Sivta[/COLOR], on a [COLOR=Red]cat [/COLOR]that meets its minimum requirements and used it for more then a day, started to realize that hey, its not that bad. Then most of them turned into [COLOR=Red]Sivta[/COLOR] fan boys, those that didn't, are the only ones that had a valid right to not like [COLOR=Red]Sivta[/COLOR]. That means anyone who hasn't used [COLOR=Red]Sivta[/COLOR] for more then a 2 weeks, and have used it on[COLOR=Red] an > 1 year old cat[/COLOR], have NO right to say its a crappy [COLOR=Red]catnip[/COLOR].

See? It makes sense some like Vista less because it takes more resources, and only works on better computers, leaving others in the dust. Vista kills kittens.



Chocu1a

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#127 12 years ago

lmao^. Oh, man..I want to +rep you for that.




Sgt. D. Pilla

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#128 12 years ago
The-Bleh-Bleh;4561734 Please step off your pedestal for a moment and consider the fact that we all have brains. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I'm misinformed.

So you understand how superfetch works, you understand how the memory blocking schemes work, in that case, you can't say that Vista uses alot of ram, because you will know it uses only 50~MB more then XP. If you say it doesn't then you obviously don't understand how the memory optimizations and memory blocking schemes work.

Yeah, it's certainly faster with networking, and I agree it's nice they fixed the window lock up issue. However, there are networking problems that really bother me.

I constantly have experience with 3 Vista computers at LANs. There are always major network compatibility issues between Vista and XP. The constant problem we get is that the Vista computer won't host shared folders to networked XP computers. The second problem we get is that the Vista computer can't access certain XP computers at all, seemingly at random. Eventually, we found a way to get one Vista computer to network perfectly. We tried the same thing on a second Vista computer. File sharing worked for literally 2 minutes, then never worked again. In short, Vista networking is better with speed and ease of use, but only with other Vista computers. I find it incredibly unstable networking with XP. Just another Vista compatibility problem that I find annoying.

Thats easy to fix, you need to give the group Everyone permission on a security level and sharing level, then it works fine.

At first I was neutral. Then my sister got a Vista laptop for college, a 2GHz Core 2, 3GB RAM, Nvidia 8400. Does that meet the minimum requirements? I used it for a few weeks before she left to college.

I did all the setting up of Vista because my sister is a techtard. After going through all the annoying configuration, removal of trials and other manufacturer junk, all seemed to work well. However, the thing that really bothered me was no matter what I did, Vista felt cluttered.

Anyway, I went to run Internet Explorer. After about 5 minutes of use, for some reason the internet explorer window started spamming itself with blank tabs until I killed the process. Surprising, considering this is straight out of the box. Service pack 1 did not solve the issue. Nothing would. The problem still happens today, and my friend has the exact same issue. How can such a big problem that is right in front of you not be fixed? Next, I went to install Avast and Comodo. Disabling Vista features shouldn't have been so tedious. It's hard to understand why basic tasks become point and click adventure games.

Why blame that on Vista? Its an internet explorer bug when it runs under vista, not Vistas fault. Even if IE BSODd on you, that would be IEs fault, not Vistas. Vista doesn't cause shitty made programs to have memory access violations randomly, or memory leaks.

Sgt. D. Pilla, you're missing the real story. If a catnip product worked great on most cats, but spontaneously killed certain ones, how would you feel about the product?

Honestly, couldn't care, and i would more then likely understand. Cats have allergies aswell, so if a cat is allergic to the product, whats to say it won't die?

You see an ad on TV for a brand new catnip product, called Sivta. It's advertised as the best. Soon, everyone uses Sivta. You decide you should buy some for Mr. Bigglesworth. The next day, you wake up to learn Mr. Bigglesworth is dead. Somehow you missed the label that states "WARNING: May cause adverse side effects to cats over 1 year in age, or any of the following........." How would that make you feel? Do you like the new catnip product anymore? Oh wait, it gets better. The next day some guy on the street points and laughs at you as you carry your dead cat, even though you know his cat on drugs is just as useless as yours. =p

Thats completly different, thats a company being to slack to make the product friendly to all cats, and thats sueable because they killed my cat (Btw, I hate cats so wouldn't care if it died anyway lol) Knowing full well you will kill a cat, is different to saying "If you put this program on your machien and it doesn't have A, B, C, or D, it won't run, or will run very shitty"

Good. Now let's get to the truth.

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See? It makes sense some like Vista less because it takes more resources, and only works on better computers, leaving others in the dust. Vista kills kittens.

Vista doesn't kill kittens, aka Computers. The users do, If you put Vista on a machine that couldn't handle it, thats your own fault if its hell slow at running. Microsoft and Vista arn't to blame, they both said it probably will run slowly. Its the same if you give Sivita a cat food, to dogs, and even though the label said "NOT FOR DOGS" (Like most cat foods do), you can't blame the product or company for your own stupidy in ignoring the labels.

If you feed cat food to a dog, and the dog dies, its your fault, not the companies or the products, they can't help it you ignored the blantantly obvious label.




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#129 12 years ago

Quote: Good. Now let's get to the truth. Made little to no sense very well put




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#130 12 years ago

very good counter argument;)