I wish they'd make a gaming edition, with no extra bullcrap or services running or installed that aren't necessary for playing or updating games.
When in doubt, gas it!
I certainly won't get it unless I buy a new computer (not gunna happen within the next 2 years), or everything coming out doesn't work on XP (can see this happening). Not interested.
Oh forget about vista.
OS X 10.5. I'll put good money on it being much more reliable than Vista.
Moved from General Discussion to Tech Discussion. It started as a sort of general question, but it's inevitably turned into a technical discussion.
Why would you want a pre-release version of Vista? So that you can tell people you've used it, so that you have some sort of advantage over them. It's human nature.
As for me, as I've said many times before, I'm sticking with XP and Linux: developers know that gamers, who mostly know more than the average home-video bitch that would actually use Vista, will stick with XP and/or move to Linux so there will be nothing forcing us to make the move (except Halo 3, but I'm confident that a WINE-type Vista DLL emulator will become available for Linux and XP eventually).
Jeff is a mean boss
28th July 2002
it might take a while Reven, from what i heard of this new architecture they have Vista running on
You know, I really have to say this cause sometimes you can only bite your lip enough. It REALLY cracks me up when I see a bunch of younger folks here that talk so down about Microsoft developers and such. Mostly because they don't understand the scope, or "big picture". Let's just say I personally know, am associated with, a LOT of ACTUAL Microsoft systems develepors. Due to contractural agreements, am also very limited with my communcations. Without getting too lengthy or detailed. Take into consideration, our target audience. Understand that what we are capable of doing, versus what corporate dictates through user analyst, requirements and market research does not always equal our abilities. We are talking, an application on a World Wide level. You are not going to get %100 acceptance. But in this scope you shoot for the "big" number to remain profitable. And in the 6 years I've been in software design, development and testing. Even working with some remarkable project managers, and industry SME's in my time. Nothing has EVER been %100 fool proof. And I've been on a number of software release and implementations. It's simply the fact of IT life. Oh, and btw. "hard core" gamers, don't even make up a 1/4th of the end users. Not even close. If you think your brighter than these guys, we can set up a time at a nearby coffee house so we can chat and "talk shop". Open invite. Shoot me your email, and I'll shoot you my contact information.
Jeff is a mean boss
28th July 2002
if you truely know a lot about Vista, i would love to discuss it more.
Im not pro microsoft, or anti microsoft. I have XP right now, because it was the best for my needs (schooling, gaming, general crap)
I plan on getting vista at some point in the future, mainly for gaming though......
How well will Vista run games? Right now, the OS itself seems to be a huge resource hog
Beside just having my beta copy of it. I work with them on a totally different enterprise level applications, Oracle database, etc. But two of my schoolmates are actual developers and testers. I'm primarily defending against these broad attacks against "dumb Microsoft employee's" and not against Vista itself.
since Vista is built from the ground up (aka nothing from XP is left over)
Will there be the cheaper upgrade versions
I remember you could buy the full XP, and then the "upgrade" XP if you had 95, ME, or 2000
I do not think so, vista is built on an updated version of the server 2003 core, this will make making an upgrade option difficult
OverwatchWith the ammount of games that would become redundant, Windows would have bricks fling through their windows (no pun intended). And then no one would buy Vista. Think about it, most users are hardcore gamers.
No, most users are businesses that can own anything from a few to thousands of computers each. Relatively speaking, 'hardcore' gamers make up a very small segment of the market. All gamers combined, yes, are quite a big segment (not massive, and not one of the biggest ones, but definately worth paying attention to). But most gamers (ie not the 'hardcore' ones) are just as interested in the OS' new multimedia features (or whatever) as they are in playing games.