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#1 9 years ago

Ok, so I have had my lcd tv "32" connected to my computer acting as my monitor for over a year now. I recently built myself a new computer, top of the line. my graphics card is the gigabyte radeon 1gig 4890. Everything works fine on my computer and games play awesome except for one problem.

The problem being when i'm playing the games not all only the high end games they can tend to give a effect that makes it harder to focus on the screen. For examply I am playing fallout 3 with everything maxed, the game plays fine and no lag or anything. At first my eyes tend to hate it whenever i move the mouse to change my direction in the game. As well as friends that watch me play who are sitting further back from the television kinda get sick from the motion. This goes for other games too that have high graphics levels. Now over time I do adjust to it but its kinda annoying and I want to figure out if I can improve this and eliminate this problem.

My lcd tv does run at 60hz 1360x768. 32 inches. my computer is a 7750 dual core, 4gigs of ram , 4890 vid card 1gig of ram. Everything runs smoothly.

I was wondering maybe its because the tv is only at 60hz? And would the newer lcd tv's that run at 120hz or 240hz would improve this and if anyone knows from testing? Or would a 2nd 4890 video card improve this effect?

Or is this simply how the game looks when on high graphics and large screens and it will always be like this?




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#2 9 years ago

I was told to post in this section. I know its gaming related <- I only read the notice to please not post gaming related topics after I posted. But it is also very much hardware related.




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#3 9 years ago

Hmm that's a hard one, you don't need a 2nd 4890, one is fine, but this is pretty strange. I wouldn't suspect that the 60hz Tv is the problem, cause 60hz is just measuring how fast the tv displays the frames. I'll let someone who has more experience with playing PCs on TVs help you out more ;) And don't worry, you posted in the right place.


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#4 9 years ago

If the TV worked fine as your monitor for over a year, we can likely rule that out as the culprit (or you would have seen ghosting in the past). I used my 37" 720p TV (1360x768) as a "desktop" monitor for a year as well, and it did great, also works fine when I hook my laptop up to it.

What framerates are you actually getting (try using "FRAPS")? You could be doing this on a 60" tv, doesn't matter. 1360x768 shouldnt even be stressing that 4890 at all yet it sounds like you are getting stuttering or possibly ghosting. Have you tried another monitor/tv just to see how it does?




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#5 9 years ago

Are you sure your TV doesn't have a bit of input lag? Also, try turning off mouse smoothing if you're using it in those games you're having trouble with.




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#6 9 years ago

I'm not sure, but turning on Vsync might help. (A wild guess, but it has fixed problems for me before).




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#7 9 years ago

What's the response time of the TV? Cause it may be that it's response time is not great, and it's causing ghosting or something?




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#8 9 years ago

I'm using a 32" 1080p (1920x1080) LCD TV as my monitor, which is also running at 60Hz, and i haven't noticed anything like your describing. If anything, this TV gives a much better quality picture than my 20" monitor does.

How do you have your PC connected? VGA, DVI, or HDMI? Using HDMI gives a much better picture for me at least.

What's the response time of the TV? Cause it may be that it's response time is not great, and it's causing ghosting or something?

That was my first thought as well.

To give you a idea for comparison, my TV's response time is 5ms.




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#9 9 years ago

Well, there are bits and pieces on the net about people with TVs and monitors with even 2ms response times having ghosting problems.




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#10 9 years ago

Samsung LNT3242HX/XAA 32 720p LCD TV here's a link to my television. Which has a max of 8ms response time.

I have been using fraps and it runs usually 60+fps but when the studder ocurs it does drop to like 30-40 fps. Though when I look in the fraps output file for its benchmark i get these results which kinda don't make sense why I am seeing a drop on the display of the fraps ingame. Frames Time(ms) Min Max Avg 317 4217 73 79 75.172

The video card is dvi to hdmi input v-sync is on and it did improve the problem in some games but still slightly occured in the games that improved.

Going on why fraps drops at times it has to be video card or a lag somewhere in the system. I'll try to put the ram up to its settings and maybe slightly overclock some stuff and see if that helps. And monitor the system when it occurs.