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Flakpanzer

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#1 8 years ago

After a much longer period of time than I'd like, I'm finally deciding it might be time to build a new rig. My current one isn't terrible but I feel its time I step into the 64bit Windows 7 world and in doing so, I'm ready to start getting hardware to match.

The specs in my sig are my current build, and I'll be reusing my case (Thermaltake TsunamiDream) power supply and video card at the moment. Hard drive too, of course, but only as an OS drive I guess.

Anyways, as far as constraints and stipulations:

  • I am trying to go budget minded, this isn't something I NEED and depending on cost may hold off. Less than 700, IDEALLY less than 600 if possible, INCLUDING Windows 7. I have leeway if its justifiable as far as pricing goes. I will NOT be building a new computer in the forseeable future after this one so keep this in mind please.
  • It must support SLI/Nvidia. My goal is to eventually buy a high-end nvidia card and set my current 9800GTX+ as a physics processor. As I understand it, I require SLI support to do so, and have yet to find much of anything in the way of SLI. Not picking up a video card at this time.
  • 6 gigs or more of ram. Six is the MINIMUM. More is great, and I'm not anal about OMG STUPIDFAST RAM MAN. RAM is RAM imo, I'm not milking for every drop of performance, so feel free to cheap out if it saves money and gets moar RAM! I'd prefer DDR3 though.
  • Not immensely concerned about overclocking friendly hardware. I don't overclock at all, outside of my video card.

Here's a basic build I made up a while back, seemed like a good price point and the hardware seemed sound as well. Modify it or completely throw it out the window with your own suggestions, by all means! I've been out of the loop for a VERY long while so I'm completely unfamiliar with most new hardware/tech anymore and compatibility is way over my head. This stuff may not even be compatible :lulz:

At any rate:

$175 - Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

$118 - Motherboard: ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X Newegg.com - ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard

$134 - RAM: G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7T-6GBPK Newegg.com - G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7T-6GBPK

$69 - HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

$99 - Windoze: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - Operating Systems

Grand Total of 594ish on newegg alone.

You guys have been good to me every other time I've thought about building a new gaming desktop, I have no doubts you'll help me again! Thanks for your time, lets see what we can come up with :)




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#2 8 years ago
Flakpanzer

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#3 8 years ago

After running the numbers the build you suggested is actually 700 bucks or so :(

I do like the build a bit more -aside from cost being inherently higher- and I'm really leaning towards it, since a six core would be great future-proofing. Thanks for the suggestion, a bit above what I'd like to spend however I have a feeling the extra cost would benefit me in regards to having a CPU that isn't going to be behind the times quite so soon.




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#4 8 years ago

My bad. I must have forgot to add something somewhere. Its still worth the extra $100 though.




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#5 8 years ago

A good way to save some money is to find out if you know anyone who is a college student, most schools offer big discounts on windows. You could potentially get it for $20-30 depending on who you know.




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#6 8 years ago

Just so you know, you're sort of going about things the wrong way...

You're looking for a high-end NVIDIA card, and you want a 9800GTX as a PhysX card (huge overkill, by the way), yet you won't overclock a 6-core processor. You're going to run into a big bottleneck with that, just so you know.

Even overclocking my quad-core from 3.0GHz to 3.6GHz saw pretty substantial jump in performance. This is with a GTX 480.

Crysis at 1680x1050 0xAA/16xAF went from 21 min/42 max/ 35 avg. to 27 min 42 max/37 avg. Note the pretty hefty increase in minimum fps.

Just something I thought I'd mention. Also, why do you NEED 6GB of RAM, just curious?




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#7 8 years ago

The_Daedalus;5420340Just so you know, you're sort of going about things the wrong way...

You're looking for a high-end NVIDIA card, and you want a 9800GTX as a PhysX card (huge overkill, by the way), yet you won't overclock a 6-core processor. You're going to run into a big bottleneck with that, just so you know.

Even overclocking my quad-core from 3.0GHz to 3.6GHz saw pretty substantial jump in performance. This is with a GTX 480.

Crysis at 1680x1050 0xAA/16xAF went from 21 min/42 max/ 35 avg. to 27 min 42 max/37 avg. Note the pretty hefty increase in minimum fps.

Just something I thought I'd mention. Also, why do you NEED 6GB of RAM, just curious?

I'm just not real comfortable overclocking my hardware, I guess. I don't know much about it and I've always been of the opinion that if I can't afford to replace it I shouldn't risk breaking it unless I'm REALLY sure its not gonna cook itself. Not knowing enough about the process means I'm probably more prone to "doing it wrong" than getting successful results. I feel it is a healthy fear.

Would I like to learn how to do it? Sure, but right now, I suspect its wiser for me not to mess too much with it until I have a bit more disposable income to go with a better case, better cooling solutions and having an "oh hell why is my computer on fire" fund.

I do realize it'll be a bottle neck but since I already have the 9800 as my current video card anyways, eventually I will be stepping up to a better video card, so I might as well smoke em if I got em. It'll be a long time before I get a new video card, though. By then I'll probably have more money and a better idea of what I want/need. Right now I just need to step up and get a setup that will last a long while for a price I can live with. All about finding the happy medium of what I want and what I can afford right now!

As far as RAM however, I'm honestly not sure how much RAM I might need, but I want to have more rather than less. 6GB seems like a decent point to draw the line as games these days are demanding more and more, particularly with DX10 and 11 being the norm. Bear in mind I haven't considered hardware specs or upgrades or "realistic needs" for a long while now so what I might think is "necessary" may be WAY overkill. Peg it up to lack of current knowledge I suppose.




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#8 8 years ago

4GB is pretty much the standard now. 6GB if your running a X58 rig. Anything more than that is not needed yet unless your doing lots of stuff that eat up ram like heavy video/audio editing and whatnot.




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#9 8 years ago

Flakpanzer;5420394I'm just not real comfortable overclocking my hardware,

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ve with. All about finding the happy medium of what I want and what I can afford right now!

All valid and reasonable points. I would mention a couple of things:

If you're already OCing your video card, your processor isn't a whole lot harder. There are plenty of very knowledgable people here, and on other forums to assist you every step of the way to make sure you don't do anything wrong, and to help you along the way learning how.

Also, having good cooling isn't that expensive at all. $40 would get you a good heatsink that's quite a bit better than the stock cooler. $60 would get you a Corsair H50, which would give you amazing overclocks.

Finally, usually OCing your processor will lead to better results than OCing your graphics card, especially if you have a multi-core CPU, becuase they tend to be on the low-end clock speed-wise, and can therefore sometimes bottleneck a single high-power card.

Just some food for thought.