WHY is phase change cooling (VAPOCHILL) sooooooo EXPENSIVE? 9 replies

Please wait...

Guest

I didn't make it!

0 XP

 
#1 13 years ago

Do you think a $800 price tag plus is justified for a phase change cooling system concitering you can get a mini fridge for less that $100? Its cool, but the price of these things seems a bit over done. Am I right?




[CoUk]niu

I take what n0e says way too seriously

50 XP

12th March 2004

0 Uploads

2,110 Posts

0 Threads

#2 13 years ago

Of course it`s expensive,do you think it`s easy to come up with the idea?

Or realising it? In that case try building one yourself,it is possible.




Kilobyte

What does the Fox say?

69,060 XP

23rd November 2002

0 Uploads

6,468 Posts

0 Threads

#3 13 years ago

I do believe they are a bit costly.

However that is often the case with newer parts, that are not exactly mainstream. The consumer base for those products is small. How many people actually bother with upgrading their stock cooling? Only the ones with plenty of cash to spare, or a need to overclock usually do.

So to make money they have to charge a lot for them. 3DFX knew their parts were way too costly, even though they were worth it. So they sold them for less than they made them, at a significant loss. Now they are out of business...

Those aren't for everyone, and if someone is willing to pay that much,... so be it.




Σl.Ðestructo

People say I post too much

50 XP

12th February 2004

0 Uploads

1,449 Posts

0 Threads

#4 13 years ago

I'm gonna do a search, but is VapoChill just evaporative cooling for your pc? I'd rather get normal water cooling for $300 or make my own for $50 than that... EDIT I See Now...

Tha HotHardware review
The end result is that the cold plate in our "Standard Edition" unit, while under no load, maintains an idle temp of about -20C, while the system is running a Windows session with a heavily overclocked Pentium 4 processor.
The actual Pentium 4 on chip thermal diode at this point, registers around 1C or 33F, again without load...
...Notice our CPU, when at default voltage and idle, is registering a Sub Zero -7C temp...

Did'nt find any load temps, but thats damn cold!!!




metal_militia

Killing is my business...

50 XP

29th November 2004

0 Uploads

1,759 Posts

0 Threads

#5 13 years ago
FX-FraggerDo you think a $800 price tag plus is justified for a phase change cooling system concitering you can get a mini fridge for less that $100? Its cool, but the price of these things seems a bit over done. Am I right?

Thats because mini fridges suck. vapochill cases are expensive because they are manufactured to a high quality and i would guess they use alot of specialised parts ect. You stick your PC inside a mini fridge and see how long it lasts.




Eagle One

:-D

50 XP

22nd December 2003

0 Uploads

2,992 Posts

0 Threads

#6 13 years ago

id love one if i could afford one, the cooler the better. Some real serious overclockers get there CPU to below -100c, like that guy who overclocked his 3.6ghz P4 to 6ghz, his CPU was below -200




Pethegreat VIP Member

Lord of the Peach

70 XP

19th April 2004

0 Uploads

20,892 Posts

0 Threads

#7 13 years ago

that nice *drools at 6ghz processor* I wonder how much he upped the voltage for the processor to keep it stable? You would probably need an $800 PSU to power that thing:p




metal_militia

Killing is my business...

50 XP

29th November 2004

0 Uploads

1,759 Posts

0 Threads

#8 13 years ago

I highly doubt it was stable, he probably got it into windows took a screenshot and shut it down. When OCing that high its not a question of stability but rather wether you can get the thing into windows.




C38368

...burning angel wings to dust

50 XP

14th February 2004

0 Uploads

5,013 Posts

0 Threads

#9 13 years ago
Eagle Oneid love one if i could afford one, the cooler the better. Some real serious overclockers get there CPU to below -100c, like that guy who overclocked his 3.6ghz P4 to 6ghz, his CPU was below -200

And he also did that with LN2, not phase change. @El_Destructo~ No, evap cooling are the infamous so-called b--- towers for open water loops that were popular a couple years ago. They worked in much the same way as nuclear cooling towers :) @OP~ They basically are a very small, industrial-strength fridge. But they're also a the size of a breadbox, are intended to cool a single point by 200°F (or more--far more than a minifridge could ever hope to do), and have to be able to do this constantly for as long as the machine is running. They're expensive and, AFAIC, not even close to worth it. Your obsession would be much better served with water--phase change setups only give you the option of cooling the CPU, and nothing else.




Eagle One

:-D

50 XP

22nd December 2003

0 Uploads

2,992 Posts

0 Threads

#10 13 years ago
metal_militiaI highly doubt it was stable, he probably got it into windows took a screenshot and shut it down. When OCing that high its not a question of stability but rather wether you can get the thing into windows.

there was a thread about him and a pic on some overclocking tools and it was about 6002MHz (just topped the 6gig) try searching and youll see