Well the ISO doesn't really compress the data, it just contains it, so it actually makes the download longer. Besides that extracting it yourself vs letting the burn app do it lets you know if everything extracted OK. What I am mainly saying though is they don't differentiate burn bootable vs burn regular disc. One only gives you an install disc, the other a boot from CD disk so you can install from DOS on a separate partition.
Babeman;4908144 I've encountered no crashes so far after a whole month of use while with vista I got around 10-15 each month. It's very stable and smooth.
Really? Wow, I've only had 3 crashes in the 2 years I've had Vista.
I don't know about 7, if I get it... I'll wait until SP1.
Side Note: I was at Fry's the other day and they were still selling PC's with XP
I've been trying W7 32 bit in a dual boot setup along with an old XP install for the last few hours. I put it on a 16GB partition via Partition Magic. W7 is surprisingly fast and I could play the old classic RTCW no problem, but with Far Cry I have the same problem I had with XP, it won't play patched anymore, probably due to the ATI drivers not supporting my GPU anymore. I've also had a few problems with KMPlayer, which I play DVDs on. The main thing I don't like though are the heavy restrictions on freedom of registry editing and certain file removal. It is said you can set permissions like you can in XP, but it often doesn't work to allow access.
Win7 doens't have any driver issues, thats because all Vista drivers work under Windows 7, albiet it they hardware may not function to its full extent (Such as my Raid controller got slow transfer speeds) but it still atually functions and is usable.
>Omen<;4908807I said EXTRACT a zip or rar file then burn it, not burn it as is. What part of that did you not get? If you merely burn an ISO image without making sure you select make a bootable disc from ISO, you won't get a bootable disc that way either. You can get the same results by just extracting the ISO, then burning it, I've done it numerous times. [/quote] You don't have to select "make a bootable disc". An ISO can also contain the boot record of the disc, and burning it to a disc will allow it to be bootable.
I've done it this way, many times. Which is one of the reasons I prefer an ISO to having to extract files to a CD.
[QUOTE=>Omen<;4908807]I'm just saying the way they word it is misleading for those whom haven't burned an ISO image before. At the very least they should point out you need to make sure you burn the ISO as a bootable disc, vs just burn the ISO to disc as they say.
When I have selected "make a bootable disc" it corrupts the boot loader, rendering the disc unbootable. Except for a minimalist command prompt.
I normally use Nero, Alcohol, or k3B to burn a disc.
Hey Monster, I always use Nero myself, though it's just an old v6 I got OEM with my Lite-On DVD burner combo yrs ago. I stopped burning ISO images straight to disc long ago because I never get them to install that way on boot or in the OS. I always extract the contents then burn, which gives me the exposed Setup and Boot folders just like you see in a retail MS disc when you right click the ROM drive and Explore the dics contents.
I ended up wasting one disc trying to make bootable ISO in Nero, but I don't think it was due to corruption. The only reason I tried burning another disc is the one I had already burned after exrracting the ISO would only try to install in the OS. I never got the "Press any key to boot from CD" prompt when rebooting like my XP retail disc does.
It appears they don't make the W7 installer the same way the XP one was, perhaps because it automatically reboots several times during the process anyway. As long as you have a partition setup and formated, the end result is the same as putting it on that partition the way XP would install.
My main gripe so far about W7 is their spoon feeding overly secure registry restrictions for users that don't need it. They really should have some way to bypass them or remove them in higher version of the OS. I also find that despite what many say, changing permission values usually doesn't work.
I also haven't entered my license key for W7 RC yet. In my haste trying to get a DOS bootable disc made, I forgot to write it down. Thus I had to skip that part of the install. I expected to see an activate W7 prompt on the taskbar like XP has, but none was found. I also see no way of entering it and I don't know if not doing so will render it unusable within X amount of days.
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26th July 2005
You get 3 days then win 7 will try to activate itself. To add your key (which you can get at an time from microsoft so dont worry about that) goto Control panel then click the system then click the "view amount of ram and processor speed" At the bottom of the new window it will say "windows is not activated" and "change product key" Click the key one, input your key then activate.
goody10;4910040You get 3 days then win 7 will try to activate itself. To add your key (which you can get at an time from microsoft so dont worry about that) goto Control panel then click the system then click the "view amount of ram and processor speed" At the bottom of the new window it will say "windows is not activated" and "change product key" Click the key one, input your key then activate.
Cool, thanks goody. That's one place I didn't look for a way to activate. It said 29 days though, so I guess you have a month total.
I am now activated. As Picard would say,..."Engage!"
>Omen<;4908807I'm just saying the way they word it is misleading for those whom haven't burned an ISO image before. At the very least they should point out you need to make sure you burn the ISO as a bootable disc, vs just burn the ISO to disc as they say.
You do know that in Nero you use the 'Burn Image to Disc' option (I think that's what they call it, havn't used Nero for a while) not literally just start a data disc and put the ISO file on it, don't you? To be honest I found what you've said pretty hard to follow but if you use 'Burn Image to Disc' you will get all the files 'exposed' on the disc just like you've described with extracting the files from the ISO and then burning that to disc.
If you add the ISO file to a normal Nero data disc then Nero will literally just put the ISO file on the disc since that's what you've told it to do (which has it's uses - for example if you want to put multiple CD images on a single DVD for storage etc), not actually create the disc with all the files how they're meant to be.
If I've misunderstood then sorry, ignore me.
No, you didn't misunderstand me, I just find it odd that you said my words were hard to follow, then immediately after described the very same thing I did in detail. Anyways, my old Nero 6 OEM version just says make a bootable disc, and that's what I selected, but it only burned the ISO straight onto the disc. Worse yet I just found out my copy of Nero doesn't work with my W7 install (I did the burn on XP obviously before installing W7). Not only that, the "free" update Nero offers to make it compatible with Vista is only available via a $13 CD, unless someone can direct me to a link where I can download it that is.
I'm more worried about the condition of XP on my dual boot setup though. All last night XP was working fine after the W7 install, including a solid net connection. Ever since I activated W7 though, I can't get on the net in XP with IE8, FF3, or Opera10. My ISP tech says my connection is fine, and I restored all advanced settings in IE and tried the automatically detect setting on the proxy page, nothing. I can't even access my modem page, which is weird because that doesn't even require a net connection, yet here I am on W7 with great connectivity, speed, and access to my modem page as well, where all the info checks out OK.
Looks like I might have to do another XP repair. I don't feel like formatting. I was wondering if I could just enter the license key for it again though because it's acting like it's not activated ever since I activated W7. Has anyone that's done an XP/Vista or XP/W7 dual boot ever had this problem? If so, do you know how to solve it? I'd like to get this solved soon because XP shows updates needing to be installed and I don't know what they are because the update icon won't show me and I can't get on the Windows Updates site. Truth is I prefer net surfing with W7 anymore though. I may just format and install W7 exclusively if it games well enough.