Myself and C38368 have agreed that, due to the sudden influx of questions, discussion and criticism regarding Microsoft's latest operating system, all posts on the subject should remain in this topic for the time being. So if you have any views, queries or comments about Windows Vista, here is the place to express them.
Please, if you want to participate in this thread, post intelligently and constructively. Any off-topic or inflammatory content will be removed.
OK i have a question. I am running Windows XP SP2. Should I upgrade to Vista and if so what level upgrade should I get and if possible how much will it cost. And will it cause any poblems with things i download or games i play. Computer specs as follows:
You may want to move some junk from your main drive to the storage drive :nodding:
I believe with those specs you should be able to run the Ultimate Vista Edition - if you want to spend that much money on Windoze of course :)
I think his question would be better rephrased as "Can my computer run Vista?"
Yes, it will run Vista fine. Now, should you upgrade? That's a different question.
First you'll need to specifiy what you will be doing on the computer, how much you are willing to spend, etc.
To be honest, I don't see the necessity on upgrading to Windows Vista. The most responsible answert I can give you is, save your money. Wait until the bugs are ironed out, and maybe in the future you can buy it pre-installed on a computer.
Nice thread idea, too.
17th June 2002
Yes, because god forbid people create new threads!
The biggest question is - should you own Windows Vista?
The biggest answer is - only if you value freedom. Freedom of usage, freedom of software, freedom of hardware. Not to mention Europeans, who have to pay almost double the price that Americans do. In short - the answer is no.
Mr. Matt;3543513The biggest answer is - only if you value freedom. Freedom of usage, freedom of software, freedom of hardware. Not to mention Europeans, who have to pay almost double the price that Americans do. In short - the answer is no.
That's a very clever, neat way of putting it :beer: ... I'll drink to that :nodding:
Yeah. It kinda sucks for people who don't live in the US. Everything is higher in cost. Cars from the US....not very many are shipped over there. Like the Ford GT, only 24 were sent to the UK......but thats off topic.
well...not everything... but yes, most things is, but that due to our taxation system
So, this last weekend I was all wrapped up at PDXLAN. As one might expect from a room full of geeks (about 550 of us,) several people had Vista up and running. What follows are a handful rudimentary impressions surrounding the interface and some of the guts, the latter of which partially came from an M$ employee.
On Aero Glass: It's nothing special. That is to say, it's nothing that isn't already available in both OSX and Linux (via Beryl or Compiz.) However, it is a 3D desktop. This is diffult to explain to someone who hasn't seen it before, but the desktop now has a sense of depth. Go play around with a demo system (Vista or OSX) for awhile and you'll understand. It makes going back to a "flat" WinXP desktop very, very boring and rather craptastic. However, as I've noted, Vista has nothing in terms of GUI that doesn't exist everywhere else already. And there's no Exposé clone, which isn't exactly a surprise, but kinda sucks nonethless. The one new thing that Vista does have is a meta-Tab (really Win-Tab) function that works like Alt-Tab, but actualyl cycles through windows in this 3D way that you've probably seen demoed. This isn't new (beryl does it,) but the tab list does include the desktop, and stopping on it effectively minimises all windows. That is cool, and it something that beryl at least won't do (dunno about OSX.)
On hardware: Generally, it works. Most of this observing was done on one computer, so ymmv. However, there was a good selection of hardware to work from, so here's a quick breakdown. --Video cards: The guy had a pair of (X1900s, I believe) in Crossfire. Video worked at appropriate resolutions, but Vista didn't list any video memory in the system screen. It did, however, show in excess of 2GB available for graphics use, and showed that only about 1.5GB (or so; I don't recall the exact amount) was shared system memory. Don't know if Vista takes advantage of Crossfire yet. For the record, this system has 4GB of memory (4x1024MB) and was running 64-bit Ultimate. --Nostromo N25: One of these was installed. Low and behold, Vista picked it up and loaded the control panel. Don't know if it works appropriately or not yet, but all looks good. --Matrix Orbital: No go. Their drivers aren't WHQL yet, so they direct Vista users to the company that actually creates the USB driver they bundle with the software. Supposedly, these are WHQL, but they don't install.
Nobody (of about a dozen users) had obvious complaints about major components not working properly, and one guy did all of his gaming (EVE, Supreme Commander and BF2142 I noticed for certain) on Vista. As hardware becomes more esoteric, support under Vista becomes more and more spotty.
Verdict, based on my observations? Don't buy it. Not until SP1. Remember that M$ guy? He works with Vista every day and is in some kind of support role. The problems with the OS are many and varied, and if you're not consistently on the bleeding edge of everything, you're probably better off waiting until after the first Big Patch. But to its credit, Vista is a helluvalot more polished than a lot of the comments here would have you believe. If you also stop to consider that it's pretty much on par with XP in terms of gaming performance, you really have to give credit to M$ for managing that feat, considering just how much Vista loves the resources.
Also: I loth DirectX. But damn does it make for pretty games.
I'm sure I'll have more thoughts as time passes...
Mr. Matt;3543513Yes, because god forbid people create new threads!
No, God forbid they use the search button, it would seem.