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Trekkie At Large.....

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#1 10 years ago

TG Daily - It just won’t die: Windows XP gets another six months

Microsoft’s deadline for allowing OEMs to sell PCs with systems that are “downgraded” from Windows Vista to XP is still a moving target. Initially planned to expire on June 30 of this year, Microsoft at first granted an extension to July 31. However, OEMs are still selling the downgrade option (often for a premium) and, according to new reports, the deadline apparently has been officially extended for six more months to January 31, 2009.
Recent market data showed that more than one third of new PC buyers choose to downgrade their Vista installations to Windows XP.


However, it also raises questions about the firm’s recently launched $300 million Windows advertising campaign that is designed to push Vista sales and there are certainly reasons to believe that a user who now purchases a Windows XP PC is unlikely to ever upgrade to Windows Vista: Windows 7 is expected to arrive in early H2 2009.

I sure hope Windows 7 isn't like Vista (A glossy turd)... anyone hear anything good on Windows Vienna?


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#2 10 years ago

Last I read there was not enough in 7 to make we want to spend money to upgrade from Vista. I'm sure there are some technical advancements that would be handy for someone who is more involved in their system, but not for me.


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#3 10 years ago

I've never understood the large amount of hate and outcry people seem to have against Vista. I installed it on all of my Father's work computers and they absolutely love it, and yes, one of them does play games on the machine.

I don't think it is very wise bringing out a new OS so shortly after Vista either. Bit of a loss in profit there.

I guess I should stop listening to the vocal minority. Ah well.

And valv, as far as I understand it, Windows Vienna was simply another (earlier) name for Windows 7.


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#4 10 years ago

I aggree with Flodgy. I really like Vista, I had it on my machine for a bit, played tons of games on it, but then I forgot about the vista activation and how it locks down your PC when you don't have a key :( . So I had to go back to XP. If I had a key for Vista I would definatley upgrade again. There are bugs, and especially some big one like how IE7 crashes every couple minutes, but the visual look and feel won me over :)


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#5 10 years ago

There is nothing wrong with Vista at this point in my opinion. After all the updates, and SP1, its a perfectly fine OS. In fact, i actually would not want to go back to XP at this point. I use it on a gaming rig, and have not had any problems with any of my games since i installed SP1.

Vista definitely feels snappier on the desktop, isn't ugly like a default XP install, and seems to be slightly more stable. The start menu has been improved, and explorer (not IE) seems a lot smoother and more responsive. Plus, with a couple tweaks, you can bring RAM usage down to more reasonable levels.

I think the big reasons that most people are still getting the downgrade is because of all the bad rep that Vista has gotten from the time when it was still new and the bugs/glitches had not been fixed yet. Sure, it needs a better system to run well than XP does, but at this point i don't think that is really a issue since PC's with dual cores and 2GB ram are pretty much standard.


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#6 10 years ago

no ther isnt anything wrong with vista it is fine


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#7 10 years ago

Since I've had my new Gaming Rig Vista has been a big part of it. Although it requires more Ram the Dx10 features are amazing. Not only is Vista good for games but navigating is easier, its a lot faster than XP and it feels a lot more stable.



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#8 10 years ago

It was the same with Windows 2000 and Windows XP... people kept calling it "SuXP", but after SP1 they quietly admitted to themselves how XP was superior. Looks like it's a rule rather than exception how a more demanding and unpatched operating system takes all the blame.

P.S. I don't have Vista (yet), I'm not playing any recent games and XP feels fine for now.


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#9 10 years ago

i have a dual boot system: xp sp3 for pure gaming and vista sp1 for work, office, and multimedia. I must say, xp sp3 is great for gaming, better fps (like crysis for example, 10 fps even more and with an ultra config, you have the same effects as dx10) you can play old games on xp where it doesn't work on vista. Vista is great for working and watching movies, but i agree, when sp2 or 3 comes out for vista it will be working on the top like xp. Xp sucked in the beginning as wel until sp 2 came and 3 and it works extremely good, almost no bugs anymore. Look at vista, it was a nightmare in the beginning, until sp1 came, lesser bug, little bit faster etc. But still in some points less than sp2 of xp. When sp 2 comes for vista, im sure it will win from sp3 xp.

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#10 10 years ago
I think the big reasons that most people are still getting the downgrade is because of all the bad rep that Vista has gotten from the time when it was still new and the bugs/glitches had not been fixed yet. Sure, it needs a better system to run well than XP does, but at this point i don't think that is really a issue since PC's with dual cores and 2GB ram are pretty much standard.


The main place the XP OEM downgrades are being sold to are businesses. After a business has been running for ten+ years on a platform it becomes difficult to switch away from it because the business does not run on windows, it runs on a wide variety of applications that happen to run on windows. Any company with more than about ten people is likely to have a server in and running some form of software that is absolutely critical to the business.

That takes many forms, not only generic packages like outlook and goldmine etc. but accounting packages and other programs written in house in VB by someone and then hacked with new features over the years without worrying about little things like portibility and documentation.

For a lot of companies moving to another operating system is a massive undertaking as dozens if not hundreds of programs need to be checked and fully verified as COMPLETELY working on a new OS.

That is enough of a reason not to migrate anywhere in itself. Have you ever wondered why some well known banks still run NT4? They have business critical programs running on it that won't work on later systems, and that is enough to prevent a migration away from their current systems.

Then there is the question of cost. I don't honestly think that most people here have any idea what it costs for a migration from XP to vista for anything but the smallest companies. Its not just the desktop licenses, its also new hardware, software upgrades and CALS for the replacement servers plus the time of consultants to migrate the software without losing data, and one heck of a lot of overtime for the IT staff.

And after this the business has gained what? A new shiny shell that the majority of users don't use becuase they can't find the START button and bitlocker for laptops, which is propmtly disabled as being professionals we have came up with our own solutions to that problem years ago.