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#1 8 years ago

It's probably not a secret to most people, but the more I learn about Germany during its Nazi/fascist era, its weaponry, and its Jedi/Jew-purging ways, the more it reminds me of the good ole' days of Star Wars.

Weapons: At first, you may notice how early pre-early WWII German weaponry and equipment appears on the scenes. I'm not all that familiar with where the majority of the weaponry came from, or even what it looks like (any more), but there are a few guns/weapons that really stand out to me.

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Ahh yes, Han Solo's blaster. I'd never forget the look of this thing blaster2.jpgP_han_blaster.JPG

It is stunningly similar to the German mauser pistol (I believe it's called), one of the earlier German semi-autos. Not the most original design, I might add. Why, practically all they did was add a scope, a flash-suppressor, and remove the mag. mm712schnellfeuer.jpg

Military/Other Similarities:

It may be interesting to note, that near the end of the first World War, the Germans had an elite force called the Storm Troops. I cannot help but think that this had something to do with the naming of the Storm Troopers, which, although they all have worse fighting skills than your average civilian, they at least looked cool and elite when I first saw the movies, oh, 8 years ago?

It may be also interesting to note that the Germans during WWI-WWII had lots of resources, and advanced technology, that gave them a bit of an edge in war, at least the early part of it. The Empire also had a seemingly unending source of weaponry and more advanced weapons, such as the Death Star, walkers, and airforce (though those not-so-smart pilots didn't do them much justice).

Political Similarities: The biggest, most obvious similarity I see is the story of Nazi Germany as my school 'books' (which is probably very similar to what George Lucas' understanding of it was as well) puts it, alongside with the story of the galactic empire. So the resemblance I see starts vaguely in episode II. The galactic republic is hammered with constant war with the confederacy. As such, WWI Germany is also fighting a devastating war. When the war is over, it leaves both Germany, and the Republic in shambles. Then Chancellor Palpatine shows up to quickly be thrust into as much power as possible in their republic by desperate people. As such, Hitler seemed to have the answer to many of the people's problems, partly by blaming a lot of the problems on the Jews. Eventually, he becomes dictator and begins his purge on the Jews. In a similar way, Palpatine started finding reasons to blame the jedi and lack of power to do things. He soon purges the Jedi, declares himself Emperor, and the crowds go wild, thinking him to be the savior.

Soon, the people under both the Nazi regime and the empire begin to realize that things aren't really that great, having to worry about the new law and gestapo (mostly absent in Star Wars from what I've seen). However, neither group of citizens could do anything about it. After all, things weren't that bad, not even for conquered countries in many cases, but they were still worse than before Hitler/Palpatine came to absolute power.

On the Allied/Rebel side, the good guys (such as the Jedi) knew something was up, but lacked the means to stop it. Even when Germany started to invade countries (in line with the fact that Palpatine was violating many of his rights as chancellor). When the Allies/Rebels finally did take action, the Germans had, in many ways, superior technology, and equal to superior training of soldiers, as well and sheer numbers. They appeared to be winning, until... Luke, Luke and the other famous people we know showed up, possibly symbolizing America joining the war. After a long, hard fight to the death, the Allies/Rebels won, and nursed The Republic/Germany back into health this time.

This is all speculation, and the more I look at it, the more resemblance I see, as well as lack of resemblance. I still think it's safe to say that Star Wars was inspired by Nazi Germany and WWI-WWII, but far from a copy. It seems to have more resemblance on the military side than the political side.

I'd also like to see some other revelations and/or interesting similarities between Star Wars, and what it was inspired by, more specifically German origins.

Also, after starting this thread, I found this article: Down at reason #3 is the only part that really relates to this topic http://essenmitsosse.de/the-designs-of-star-wars/




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#2 8 years ago

Yeah, I think most all the weapons were modeled after real weapons.

Example:

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It bears a striking resemblance to the Sterling:

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#3 8 years ago

I think their heavy stormtrooper blaster thingie is a modified MG42.




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#4 8 years ago

:agreed

Kinda similar:

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#5 8 years ago

computernerd;5290083:agreed

Kinda similar:

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Yeah...Not at all. I'm also almost certain that the Germans had no walkers, star destroyers and death stars. You got a few similarities.




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#6 8 years ago
Destroyer25;5290147Yeah...Not at all. I'm also almost certain that the Germans had no walkers, star destroyers and death stars. You got a few similarities.

They did however, have a lot of tanks and advanced vehicles and weaponry that struck fear into the opposing forces. I'm not sure how reliable my sources are, but according to them, the Germans were the first to implement sub machine guns, while the British weren't even using them till a bit after WWII started, when they frantically bought out American Thompsons until they could make their cheapo Sten guns.

You are however, right that the Germans didn't have walkers, star destroyers, or death stars. They did however, have V1 and V2 missiles, "the most advanced weapons of the war", and they almost made it to space... until we (Americans) stole their leading scientist(s).




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The Soleutator;5290158They did however, have a lot of tanks and advanced vehicles and weaponry that struck fear into the opposing forces. I'm not sure how reliable my sources are, but according to them, the Germans were the first to implement sub machine guns, while the British weren't even using them till a bit after WWII started, when they frantically bought out American Thompsons until they could make their cheapo Sten guns.

You are however, right that the Germans didn't have walkers, star destroyers, or death stars. They did however, have V1 and V2 missiles, "the most advanced weapons of the war", and they almost made it to space... until we (Americans) stole their leading scientist(s).

Stop! Right there. Before you make a complete fool of yourself... Britain had SMGs during WW2 kid.




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#8 8 years ago

The battle with Luke and Han on the quad-turrets of the Falcon is matched almost frame for frame with B-17 combat footage. Both of the guns show, the Stormtrooper blaster and Han's blaster, actually are just a Sterling SMG and the Mauser pistol with bits and pieces added on.

If you've never seen the "making of" documentary on the special edition DVDs (And I think it's been on TV) I highly recommend it. It's pretty interesting how they did some of what they did and also outlines where Lucas got a lot of his inspiration, with WWII being one of those sources.




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#9 8 years ago

I think the only similarity I'd ever noticed in the past was Vader's helmet. It's interesting to see some of the other stuff get compared.

Destroyer25;5290147I'm also almost certain that the Germans had no walkers, star destroyers and death stars.[/QUOTE]

The Soleutator;5290158the Germans didn't have walkers, star destroyers, or death stars.
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Still no star destroyers or death stars, though :(
[QUOTE=Destroyer25;5290159]Stop! Right there. Before you make a complete fool of yourself... Britain had SMGs during WW2 kid.

He didn't say that they didn't have them, but rather, that they didn't have them until soon after the war began ;)


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#10 8 years ago

Yeah, Destroyer, talk about making a fool out of yourself.