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#141 11 years ago
Granyaski;4524329what the bloody hell are you on! Nihilus could destroy planets with his power alone!He could wipe out entire races! he could drain all the life force from any being! in my opinion the exile got lucky, he only died because he tried to drain her but it counterfired somehow i don't know too complicated lol Yes palpatine was exceptional but could he destroy whole planets with force power alone! like Visas said"when my master spoke everything on katar vanished" i doubt Sideous had power on that magnitude

Palpatine was the guy that took over the galaxy for a good 20-30 years or so. And he had the Chosen One to do his bidding. Ol' Palpy was only bad guy that actually 'won' all the way. He also didn't fight people that ran around trying to use health packs in the middle of fights. If Nihilus could destroy entire planets by simply thinking it, why didn't he just destroy the Exile right then and there? Hmm? Sidious was even able to plan his takeover right under the noses of the Jedi, due to his expansive knowledge of the dark side of the Force. The Jedi were clueless as to who he was up until Order 66. It's for those reasons that Sidious is the better Sith.




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gravy666;4769370Palpatine was the guy that took over the galaxy for a good 20-30 years or so. And he had the Chosen One to do his bidding. Ol' Palpy was only bad guy that actually 'won' all the way.[/quote] While this is an impressive accomplishment, it really has nothing to do with his power in the Force. He was a master at manipulation, perhaps the master, but when he was finally exposed he was nearly killed by Mace Windu. He risked everything on his slow corruption of Anakin and it paid off. Impressive, but it has nothing to do with his Force abilities. And "Ol' Palpy" didn't win all the way. Two of the three most powerful Jedi survived and trained Luke who overthrew through his own apprentice. Not quite a complete victory. He won no more than the Sith Triumverate won.
gravy666;4769370 He also didn't fight people that ran around trying to use health packs in the middle of fights. [/quote] This is a matter of game mechanics. Luke can use medpacs in the JK games and Sidious can use them in BF 2. So yes he actually does. [quote=gravy666;4769370] If Nihilus could destroy entire planets by simply thinking it, why didn't he just destroy the Exile right then and there? Hmm?
Because of his and the Exile's unique ability/physiology/whatever. They acted in direct contrast to each other so Nihilus couldn't drain the Exile and the Exile couldn't drain Nihilus (like she did to the other Jedi Masters). It wasn't a lack of power, it was the aspect of the power. [quote=gravy666;4769370] Sidious was even able to plan his takeover right under the noses of the Jedi, due to his expansive knowledge of the dark side of the Force. The Jedi were clueless as to who he was up until Order 66. It's for those reasons that Sidious is the better Sith.

So Sidious could hide his true nature in the Force. While a respectable ability, it is not unique. It was shared by other Jedi/Sith including Jacen/Caedus, Vergere, Luke, and Ben. While Sidious may have been the best (or one of the best) Sith, he was not necessarily the most powerful which is what this thread is about. In terms of sheer power, Nihilus is one of, if not the best.




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#143 11 years ago
Darth_Fodo_LordOfTheBith;4769494While this is an impressive accomplishment, it really has nothing to do with his power in the Force. He was a master at manipulation, perhaps the master, but when he was finally exposed he was nearly killed by Mace Windu. He risked everything on his slow corruption of Anakin and it paid off. Impressive, but it has nothing to do with his Force abilities. And "Ol' Palpy" didn't win all the way. Two of the three most powerful Jedi survived and trained Luke who overthrew through his own apprentice. Not quite a complete victory. He won no more than the Sith Triumverate won.

Palpy took over the galaxy! How is that not a victory? And Palpatine wiped out nearly all of the Jedi. I don't quite remember Malak or Nihilus doing something like that...

This is a matter of game mechanics. Luke can use medpacs in the JK games and Sidious can use them in BF 2. So yes he actually does.

I'm not considering those, because those games are really inaccurate. JK has frantic jumping fights and 'spamming', and BF 2 doesn't even get the units and ranks correct, let alone the lightsaber forms for the Jedi and Sith characters.

Because of his and the Exile's unique ability/physiology/whatever. They acted in direct contrast to each other so Nihilus couldn't drain the Exile and the Exile couldn't drain Nihilus (like she did to the other Jedi Masters). It wasn't a lack of power, it was the aspect of the power.

So Sidious could hide his true nature in the Force. While a respectable ability, it is not unique. It was shared by other Jedi/Sith including Jacen/Caedus, Vergere, Luke, and Ben. While Sidious may have been the best (or one of the best) Sith, he was not necessarily the most powerful which is what this thread is about. In terms of sheer power, Nihilus is one of, if not the best.

We could go on for hours arguing who is the best Sith. :lol:

Good points at the end, though.




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#144 11 years ago
gravy666;4769522Palpy took over the galaxy! How is that not a victory? And Palpatine wiped out nearly all of the Jedi. I don't quite remember Malak or Nihilus doing something like that...[/quote] Yes, Palpatine took over the galaxy, but that was due to political and emotional manipulation combined with brainwashed soldiers. Nihilus wiped out all but around a dozen Jedi using nothing but the Force. (sure Sion and Traya helped but Nihilus did most of it) Quite a few Jedi survived the Purge (more seem to keep popping up all the time:D)
gravy666;4769522 I'm not considering those, because those games are really inaccurate. JK has frantic jumping fights and 'spamming', and BF 2 doesn't even get the units and ranks correct, let alone the lightsaber forms for the Jedi and Sith characters.[/quote] Neither is KotOR for that matter. After all, you can absorb dozens of blaster shots/lightsaber strikes/etc without even flinching and then slap a pack on your leg and TADA! You are healed! :adore: But its there the same reason JK and BF 2's health restoring devices are there:so the game isn't unbeatable. Game mechanics are still game mechanics. That was my point...:rolleyes:
gravy666;4769522 Good points at the end, though.
Thanks. :teach::D [quote=gravy666;4769522] We could go on for hours arguing who is the best Sith. :lol:

That we could. I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion, they're entitled to it. I'm just stating why I believe what I do. So...to each his own?:cheers:




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#145 11 years ago
gravy666;4769522 We could go on for hours arguing who is the best Sith. :lol:

or we could just find that Lucas himself said that Sidious was and whether thats goos or bad is you opinion, his word is law unfortunately...




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#146 11 years ago
Granyaski;4770157or we could just find that Lucas himself said that Sidious was and whether thats goos or bad is you opinion, his word is law unfortunately...

I've never denied Sidious' power, I've just questioned the nature of his power. A convienent loophole...:D




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#147 11 years ago
Darth_Fodo_LordOfTheBith;4770254I've never denied Sidious' power, I've just questioned the nature of his power. A convienent loophole...:D

then please ask=p




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