Nothing like a good spirited barroom political discussion to stir things up. Keep the language clean please...lol
They both suck. Can't our country come up with 2 people that are better choices for president than these guys.:confused: :(
I'd vote for my current governor, (Arnold) over these guys anyday. Unfortunately he's not eligible.:(
I'm not American, but I'd always vote the not-Bush guy, whoever he was. He can't screw the world politics up more than Bush did IMO.
A new sense of nuisance.
8th December 2003
They both are silly, but i will vote for Kerry to get Bush out of office
Yep, sucessfully hunting down terrorists, removing a horrible murdering dictator from the world and possibly bringing democracy to the very heart of the middle east - just think what he could have done if he hadn't screwed everything up. :rolleyes:
....sucessfully hunting down terrorists, removing a horrible murdering dictator from the world and possibly bringing democracy ......
Did she ask for democracy? Maybe not - but unfortunately she is part of the axis of evil. So bring her the bible anyway, take her oil but dont forget to kill her son before - he could throw a stone to you. And if the world thinks you are wrong then just explain that they got stones with atomic warhead too and all is christian right. But above all dont swear if a child is present.
Sorry Rudi, I don't get you. Did Iraq ask for democracy? Not in so many words, but all people yearn for liberty and freedom. It is absolutely our duty as a free nation to help people, whether through politics OR war, to help them.
Stones? Tell that to the US pilots that had missile after missile fired at them while enforcing the UN mandated no-fly-zones. And every missile was a breach of Iraq's surrender from the first war to boot.
You think a picture of a bleeding woman is supposed to show that sending troops to Iraq was bad? I'd be glad to send you the pictures of the piles of dead bodies from when Hussein put down protests, or the horrible twisted faces of his own people he gassed. But I won't post them here.
Well Im a big Bush backer. I think he has done a lot to change the world we live in for the good. Too many years have gone by where we turned a blind eye to the growing threat of terrism. Since 9/11 happened we can never be reactive again or next time could be worse. I am all for taking the fight to where they live and train and are sheltered.
Call me selfish but I would rather kill the terrorists where the live and train then to find them here in the US or in Europe when it is too late. Appeasment is a sign of weakness and will give them more resolve to hit you. This is why Kerry would be very bad at President. He has no moral conviction or resolve. We can not have a president that is going to do what other countries tell him he should do. We must act in our best interest first and act with force and desisiveness. This is all our enemys will respect. Reagan and Bush have/had it correct ..... Power + force= peace
I'd be glad to send you the pictures of the piles of dead bodies from when Hussein put down protests, or the horrible twisted faces of his own people he gassed
I dont want to defend Hussein, but its just a LIE that America wanted to catch Hussein in cause of humanitary reasons. America and others powered Hussein in the 80s because he was a good partner against the "evil" Iran. In that time it was anyway WHY and HOW Saddam fought against IRAN. He could use the gas against Iran's Schiits and against his own Schiits however he wanted. Moreover he could count on his strong partner USA. This situation changed only because he occupied Kuwait and the "free World" aka "good axis" was afraid about its oil reserves. It just makes me worry that so many people are believing the lies and "black and white", "good and evil" arguments and moreover they are running fanatically murdering and raping into wars. see http://www.yellowtimes.org/article.php?sid=1145 Donald Rumsfeld shakes hands with Saddam Hussein in Baghdad in 1983:
Power + force= peace
As I said, it just makes me worry that people believing such f**** bs, and we all will harvest hate for that.