Hmmmm..... -1 reply

Please wait...

Ignacio

Slap leather, varmint!!!

50 XP

7th October 2003

0 Uploads

1,364 Posts

0 Threads

#1 14 years ago

Dutch Lawmaker Urges Halting Immigration Fri Nov 19, 2:38 PM ET addtomyyahoo3.gif World - AP By ANTHONY DEUTSCH, Associated Press Writer THE HAGUE, Netherlands - One of the most popular politicians in the Netherlands said Friday the country's democracy is under threat and called for a five-year halt to non-Western immigration in the wake of the killing of a Dutch filmmaker by a suspected Muslim radical. thumb.ams10211191514.netherlands_new_populist_ams102.jpg AP Photo "We are a Dutch democratic society. We have our own norms and values," right-wing lawmaker Geert Wilders told The Associated Press in an interview. "If you chose radical Islam you can leave, and if you don't leave voluntarily then we will send you away. This is the only message possible." In his first interview with the foreign media since the slaying of filmmaker Theo van Gogh on Nov. 2, Wilders said his own life has been repeatedly threatened. He said he has begun living under state protection and has even had to stay away from his own home. Wilders split with the free-market coalition partner Liberal Party two months ago because it backed the candidacy of predominantly Muslim Turkey for the European Union (news - web sites). He formed his own conservative party, the Wilders Group, which has one seat in the 150-member parliament. But a recent poll suggested his anti-immigrant message was reverberating through the electorate, and he would win 24 seats if elections were held today — up from 19 seats before Van Gogh's murder. Wilders said that without swift, bold action, Islamic fundamentalism will topple the country's democratic system. "The Netherlands has been too tolerant to intolerant people for too long," he said. "We should not import a retarded political Islamic society to our country. There is nothing to be ashamed of to say this. It's not Islam. I speak out against the facts." In Brussels, Belgium, European Union leaders met Friday to discuss immigration, one of Europe's most pressing and sensitive issues. EU justice and interior ministers agreed to demand that new immigrants learn the language of their adopted countries and adhere to "European values" to guide them toward better integration. Even as the number of immigrants arriving in Europe falls due to tougher policies, led by a sharp drop in the Netherlands, Wilders said closing the borders isn't enough. Newcomers should be forced to integrate. "If in a mosque there is recruitment for jihad, it's not a house of prayer, it's a house of war. If it's not a house of prayer, it should be closed down," he said. Wilders, known for his radical positions and peroxide-blond hair, has been a member of parliament since 1998. He was born and educated in the southern city Venlo, near the German border. "I'm very tough on radical Islam. I have the toughest ideas on beating this problem and I'm proud of it. I say nothing wrong. I'm no racist, no anti-Islamist," he said. Wilders and the police took the death threats more seriously following the slaying of Van Gogh, who had produced a television drama critical of how women are treated in some Muslim societies. The filmmaker was shot and stabbed to death, allegedly by a 26-year-old suspected Islamic extremist who holds Dutch and Moroccan citizenship. The most recent threats were disclosed when two terror suspects, arrested Nov. 10 after a standoff in which several policemen were wounded by a hand grenade, were charged with threatening Wilders and other politicians, their lawyer said. The latest video threat broadcast on the Internet — in Dutch, with Arabic music in the background — condemns Wilders for insulting Islam and offers the reward of paradise for his beheading. Wilders' style and cause are reminiscent of Pim Fortuyn, a flamboyant political outsider who put immigration on the national agenda before the 2002 elections. Fortuyn was shot to death by an animal rights activist days before the vote, but major parties since have largely embraced his ideas. Wilders said he is not opposed to mainstream Islam but is concerned by studies saying 10 percent of the Dutch Muslim population — or about 100,000 people — support radical Islamic views. He cited a report by Dutch intelligence saying recruitment for jihad, or holy war, is taking place in as many as 20 mosques in the Netherlands, and said they should be closed and their imams, or preachers, arrested and deported. "If we don't do anything ... we will lose the country that we have known for centuries. People don't want the Netherlands to be lost, and this is something that I get angry about and I am going to fight for, to keep the country Dutch," he said.




Gringo Starr

Green Whorn

50 XP

7th May 2003

0 Uploads

165 Posts

0 Threads

#2 14 years ago

If the Dutch don't want him, we'll take him. j/k




Guest

I didn't make it!

0 XP

 
#3 14 years ago

Apparently, whe have been too tolerated to ANY foreigner settled in the Netherlands for the last 30 years. Now we have the fruits from the seeds planted that time. Don't misunderstand me, I do have NOTHING against anyone! regardless race, religion, nationality or sexual preferences (damn almost got myself shot by those first two sentences, LOL). But I do have the opinion that if you want to settle in a foreign country, you adopt the rules and their way of living whilst in public, (I don't give a damn what you do in your own house), and tread the original inhabitants (wow) of that country with respect, otherwise leave!! Now, without going too much into politics (I hate that), if you get shot in your own country by speaking your mind by people you have let into your country and fed them, and respect their way of living, religion, etc, etc, that is DEAD WRONG! No gringo, you can't have Wilders, we need him to awaken the Dutch politicians!! I don't say I sympatise with him, but he sure wakes people up who have been sleeping for three decades, so sorry that 2 people have to be slaughtered before it settles with the government.




Angel-Eyes

Born again Angel

50 XP

21st March 2003

0 Uploads

758 Posts

0 Threads

#4 14 years ago

This is a very strong and sour issue in the U.K and has been for a number of years. Why do you think those that were born and bred in the U.K leave? I'll leave it to your imagination.




Ringo

one ringo to rule em all

50 XP

20th June 2004

0 Uploads

292 Posts

0 Threads

#5 14 years ago

hmmz maybe ill goto the uk then :P




Gringo Starr

Green Whorn

50 XP

7th May 2003

0 Uploads

165 Posts

0 Threads

#6 14 years ago

Ringo, is that an Australian accent? I thought you were from the UK. :0




ifp2003

I'm too cool to Post

50 XP

10th June 2003

0 Uploads

393 Posts

0 Threads

#7 14 years ago

I do not want to quote what Paulo stated…But he is so right…. I believe in the idea of democracy… yuk yuk … Equality….. Cough /cough …. But if a culture/country of people have a specific value that they want to preserve … well then I say … That country should stand strong with its society and not whimper… I as an American live in a society that represents what some say as a democratic/ democracy .. But it is filled with so much hypocrisy that it really makes it hard to be proud.. Yes I am thankful for all that America offers me and my family.. But when it comes down to the fact/ reality… Us Americans are all into such a structured life… We seem to lose what’s real….

I have no idea what it is like living in a different form of government/ rule. But I do understand that America/ Democracy is on its last foot… I hope you understand what I am trying to say. This has nothing to do with the election.. Bush/ Kerry.. I do not think that even if Kerry had won…? Would the USA and its greed for power and all it special interest’s / Wealthy / Lobbyists / people in power .. Would have changed… The world is to huge for a specific government to rule. There are to many Political/ Religious/ worldly views….

I enjoy my life… I enjoy my pleasures… ( The world) but I could not imagine being told what to Do /Say or what to think….

Peace……. VONNER