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agent77

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#1 15 years ago

I honestly hope that famed Apocalypse_Kid sees this... everytime I upgrade (new sound card, graphics card) BF runs slower than before.

System Specs: Windows '98 Second Edition GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128Mb DDR w/TV out Hercules Gamesurround Fortissmo III 7.1 (with 5.1 surround sound setup) Pentium III 1.0Ghz 512Mb Ram (can't remember what type) 20Gb Seagate Barracuda HDD @ 7200rpms

Basically I'm having the good ol' low frames per second issue. I've jumbled the settings around over and over again (low sound, superior graphics - low graphics, low sound- etc.). For what I've had to fork out for this game, I believe I should AT LEAST be able to reasonably play it. I'm nearing the breaking point :mad: Could someone please just magically appear with the answer to my troubles?

Cheers to all who can contribute, I really do appreciate it, BELIEVE ME, the hours I've wasted trying to get this b@$t@|2d working, anyone with the answers is a saviour to me.




agent77

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#2 15 years ago

I did some heavy browsing and some more experimentation. Changed the sound to 22Khz and 32 Channels, with fairly medium graphics settings. Now I get about 20 to 30 fps when I am alone, when I join the battle my fps drop anywhere from 1 fps to 9 fps. This is the best I've had it running since version 1.2 when I had a supreme BF1942 experience.

Anyone got any ideas?




agent77

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#3 15 years ago

OK, done some more reading. I've used Direct X Diagnostic Tool (several times but to no avail) and now that I've turned the hardware acceleration down on the Fortissmo III, there appears to be a short increase in the fps with bots on the screen, however, back into combat and I'm back to square one. When I have allied bots (friendly's) the fps stays consistant at about 20 to 30 fps but as soon as the combat starts thats it, the fps rolls over and dies *sigh* help me!!!




apocalypse_kid

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#4 15 years ago

Hi agent77,

Your P3 1Ghz is probably the slowest part of your machine, however even with that you should still be getting better than you are.

So lets deal with hardware one bit at a time, with your soundcard first.

Hercules Gamesurround Fortissmo III 7.1

I haven't heard anything about this card and games so I looked up some reviews and fortunately found one where they tested it with BF1942. They noted a small decrease in performance with 5.1 enabled, of course they didn't state what hadware they were using so a small hit of 1-2 fps on a 3.06ghz P4 may end up being a substantial 5-10 fps on a 1 ghz P3, so look at that first I suggest.

Your vid cards looks fine, but I would suggest making sure that anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering are turned OFF in the vid card setup, having these turned on even on low settings can suck over 20% of you fps, having it turned up high can suck out over 50% of your fps, specially in situation where there are lots of bots, vehicles and explosions close around.

Check your BIOS for the AGP settings on your vidcard, make sure it is 4X (if your mobo doesn't support 4X your will lose about 15% performance in 2X and like 75% or more in 1X). Also while you are there check your mem settings, if your mem is PC133 make sure that your Mem clock speed in the BIOS is set correctly.

Having done all that let me know what improvement (if any) you get. However it does seem to be either a sound or vid related issue (I assume you have downloaded all the latest drivers for your sound and vid card and the latest DirectX just in case.

If there is still no change now we get to the interesting part of driver installation. Just because you have purchased a new sound or vid card and installed the drivers doesn't mean that all the old drivers have magically vanished. Sometimes old sound and vid card drivers hang around like the legendary bad smell and can cause no end of trouble after installing new bits. Quite often the only way to clear them out is a format and re-install. I hope it doesn't come to that cause that's a lot of work for the average person with no promise of absolute success, it would be useful if you had a spare HDD to test install a plain vanilla Win98 on to see that works wonders.

So before doing that try removing/shutting down/uninstalling any background software you have running, and I mean everthing from anti-virus (naturally put it back later) to instant messaging to P2P clients like Kazaa etc. When I was running Win9x as my main OS and pressed ctrl/alt/del the only running programs were my antivirus, explorer and systray, all other apps I started up as needed, believe me not only did this prevent a lot pf problems, the PC actually ran a lot faster without them.

Now that I have flooded you with suggestions I expect you will be busy for a few days so when you get a chance let me know how it goes.

Good luck

:cya: :cya: :cya:




B-17 Bomber

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#5 15 years ago

You know it could be your monitor.




apocalypse_kid

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#6 15 years ago

Hi all,

You know it could be your monitor.

Umm - no!

Monitors can just die, change colors, go fuzzy, start smoking and burn up, lose sync and many other things, but they won't slow your PC down.

Have fun

:cya: :cya: :cya:




agent77

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#7 15 years ago

Now that's the kinda help I was looking for :D

OK down to business.. I did the crtl+alt+del thing and sure enough I had a host of programs running in the background, which I've always thought to me normal and of no importance, but I closed them all anyway. Have you got any utils or progs that can prevent them from starting up on booting?

I uninstalled every piece of BF1942 on my comp, right down to the registry which I backed up. After that I thoroughly checked all the drivers, which from my understanding are all the latest, but I reinstalled the graphics and sound drivers with the latest just to make sure.

Put BF1942 back in and upgraded it to version 1.2 (the last version that worked superbly for me). Sure enough there's a difference (60 to 70 fps when I'm alone) but as soon as I hit the combat, it's gone to 0 - 20 fps.

Not sure where to go from here. I'm going to read up on BIOS before I start fiddling there. I feel pretty confident with computers but I'm no genius as to all the facets of their operation.

Thankyou very much for taking the time to help Apocalypse_Kid, I honestly appreciate all you do for the community and the individuals that are a part of it. Cheers :)

EDIT: I'm going to install Road to Rome and 1.3/1.31 in a half hour, maybe that'll help?