XP LAN woes, I feal like a retard.... -1 reply

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Sir_Gawain

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#1 15 years ago

Hello all,

I have 2 XP Pro machines running through a Cnet NEtcard and a Linksys. They both go through a Linksys hub (5 Port) I have not engaged in any networking in XP yet, and seem to have failed so far. I could get file transfers but thats it. I did havce a dsl connection throught the hub as well, but changed the modem to a USB connection instead. What network settings do I have to have for a BF game to be found? I have tried a IPX tagged and TCP/IP Internet as well, both on and off. I have differant addresses for both PC's one was 010.000.000.001 and another was 002. And I have tried auomatic on both as well to no aide. I am having a LAN party in a couple weeks and wanted to get this solve a bit before hand..(Well I hope so..)

My Network connections show 3 differant ones, the Dsl modem, the Cnet Network card (Lan Conn.) and a third effeciant networks enternet. I am really fustrated with this, but dont plan to give up yet...

By the way i am running .38 BF and also the newest DC. on both.

THX

Robert




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#2 15 years ago

i dont know much about that but i might be able to help you a little bit. this is the only thing i know how to do: to get your ip for win xp: go to start, run, and type in: command, press enter, then type in: ipconfig and press enter.

how to get ip on win 98: go to start, run, and type in: winipcfg. then select in the drop down menu what your conectid with.

hope this helps!




Sir_Gawain

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#3 15 years ago

well, i have differant ip's, one is 010.000.000.002 the other ends in 001.

hmmm, thx for the reply tho..

robert




snipeme

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#4 15 years ago

thats one funky ip if its real but ya thats how u do it :rolleyes:




Sir_Gawain

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#5 15 years ago

i manually changed them, should i go otherwise?




ditchhopper

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#6 15 years ago
I have not engaged in any networking in XP yet

Im confused by this line. Does it mean your just new to networking or does it mean you havent run the xp networking wizard yet? If you havent used the wizard yet, run it on your main computer and follow the instructions for all the other machines.




Sir_Gawain

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#7 15 years ago

no i meant i dabbled in 98, even ME but i just wanted to let you know because, i dont know if their was any configurations that XP hated by itself (differantly than older OS's)

Or any obstacles that Microsoft designed that sucked...(not that they would suck at anything, please dont kill me Bill!?!)




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#8 15 years ago

On my computer the ip already was configured when I installed windows xp so when you install windows xp you get to choose what type of connection you use well I also have a lan connection chosed that one and then I could connect to the internet and play games so




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#9 15 years ago

Hi Sir_Gawain,

First start from scratch. This may be a problem.

but changed the modem to a USB connection instead.

The USB modem is connected to one computer I presume, this will create a networking connection on your computer, this will have an IP address assigned by the ISP, it will change each time it is connected and disconnected to your ISP unless you have a fixed IP adress (unlikely these days).

Your cnet network cards should have different IP addresses and subnet masks to this connection or they will interfere with eachother, they should be in the same range - try this to make things easier (10.10.10.1 and 10.10.10.2, and the same subnet mask 255.255.255.0). They should also both be part of the same workgroup (and presumably are if you haven't changed either puters default setting) Once plugged into the hub the computers should be able to see eachother. make sure you haven't plugged either cable into the uplink port on the hub and that you are not using crossover cables (it may seem obvious to you but I have seen it done). Also make sure XP firewalling is off for the lan card network connections.

Now we come to the problem, the USB modem. At the moment your computers are on a network together, but one computer is also simultaneously on another network - a part of the internet with a different IP address and different subnet mask which the second computer has no access to, to share your dsl connection you will have ot set up Internet Connection Sharing (shudder) which is the biggest Windows kludge in the entire universe. Basically it turns your DSL connected computer into a software router for your other computer and installs all sorts of messy drivers in networking (you will see what I mean if you try it).

Having tested (confirmed) that your LAN is working, and that your DSL is working, you can now set up ICS, which in it's own Windows specific way, will promptly screw things up by changing the network address on your LAN card to 192.168.0.1 and let you create a floppy setup disk for all the other computers on your network. Since ICS is a kludge it may or may not work depending on the time of day, phase of the moon, and whether your computer likes you or not.

Once you have finished playing around with this mess and realised what a pain-in-the-butt it is you will rush out and buy yourself a ADSL Ethernet Modem/1 port router and plug it into your Linksys hub and all your problems will be solved.

This is the voice of experience speaking, I have done it both ways many times on many different computer setups and the ADSL Modem/Router method is about 1 million times easier. Not least cause the Modem/Router will act as a DHCP server and any computer left with it's default installation settings will immediately be able to see the other computers and connect to the internet - NIRVANA in a tiny box. :lol:

Good luck

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