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Assassin634

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#1 10 years ago

If you read my last post below this one then you'll know I'm now in love with the Unique Landscapes mods, and I don't want to get rid them. This also made my game really laggy at some parts in the world, but not in indoor places. I also found out that my computer is powerful enough to handle Oblivion on the highest settings possible, it even looks better then the 360, I'm not kidding. Surprisingly this did not decrease my FPS a lot, it actually improved it just a little bit somehow. I have no idea how but it did. But now when I'm fighting something in the outdoors the game lags really bad and it's really annoying. Then I looked for something that would increase my FPS, and everything that I found would decrease the quality/graphics of the game, and I would rather deal with the laggy battles then have the quality that isn't as good. So is there a mod or something that will increase my FPS without ANY quality loss whatsoever? If there isn't then I don't care I don't want to lose any quality, my game looks so good right now I swear it looks better then the 360. Before I was running it on the default settings but then I looked into it a little more and found out I can make it look a lot better. And please be absolutely sure that there will be no quality loss when I install it. Like I said, if there isn't a mod that will increase my FPS with no quality loss, I don't care, I'll just deal with it. I don't want to get rid of any quality. You can tell how much I want to keep the quality where it is now from how many times I keep saying it.

And please look at this thread. I haven't had replies to this yet and I still can't find these mods. Help will be appreciated. And if any one says that the reason my game is laggy because of my UL mods or because of the game being at the highest settings, you can waste your time typing that those are the reasons, but it won't do any good. I'm not going to deactivate the UL mods or turn my graphics down. I may be stubborn and ignorant with this problem, but if you saw these graphics, you would know why.

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#2 10 years ago

In the way of mods, i dont think its possible. but there is one thing that can help, press alt control delete go to processes, and you can end the process of anything under your username

ill tell you what not to stop, anything under the user name of SYSTEM or LOCAL SERVICE and what ever your user name is look for the explorer.exe, YOU DO NOT WANT TO END THAT EITHER!

after you end the unnecessary processes it will free up ram, you can also do this while your playing in game, find oblivion.exe and right click it and set priority to high or ect. be warned raising or lowering priority can sometimes crash your game or computer, also some processes cant be stopped so dont worry about those.

dont worry about your ended processes, they will start up next time you start your computer, so if you end something that messes up your computer just shut it down and start it up again, it should be fine. also, open up the consul commands by pressing ~ and type pcb to purge the buffer cells, it will free up some memory but when you enter the cells you will have to load them up completely again, and if you like the visuals, theres one i use that i like but hurts the visual world slightly, in the consul type tg which will toggle grass off, will significantly help the fps but all grass will be gone, honestly that doesent bug me as its all dirt and rocks so it still looks ok and fighting small creatures is eaiser. if you want to try tg , after you type it the first time type it again to add grass back.

good luck and have fun!

p.s. if your running a firewall or antivirus, you can alos disable them which actually helps alot, but if you do that i recommend disconnecting your internet from your computer to be safe, and when your done just start up your firewall and antivirus and connect back to the internet!.

p.s.s. you can also try removing all your fancy desktop stuff and get the old win 98 and below look which will really help you as it takes up graphics.

p.s.s.s. :) got one more for you,try deleting your all the files under, C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch (or similar)

and C:\WINDOWS\Temp (or similar)

by similar i mean the drive its located, mine is C: yours can be D: i dont know,

these folders hold info on internet and programs youve used or visited recently, dont delete the folder, just the contents, this will speed up your computer and free up space! i recomend doing this for anything you do, it help out with alot of stuff. getting rid of the contents of THESE folders will not harm your computer, dont mess with any other folder though.

consider yourself warned!




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#3 10 years ago

Because you said that disconnecting from the net would help, I'll say this now even though I haven't tried anything you said yet: You helped A LOT! I expected to only get 1 or 2 ways to help my FPS, but you gave me a lot more then that. Honestly I knew about most of the stuff you told me, but I didn't think about them helping my FPS. I knew about the purge cell buffer thing in game. I use that all the time but I never really noticed a difference in my FPS, unless I wasn't paying attention. I also knew about the toggle grass thing, but, like I said, I don't want ANY quality loss, so I won't use that. And I have just one question:

you can also try removing all your fancy desktop stuff and get the old win 98 and below look which will really help you as it takes up graphics.

Exactly what do you mean by that? And how much would this help my FPS in case I don't want to take any risks with getting this "win 98"? And what about sorting the load order? I have another thread with that problem but only one person answered me. Even if it doesn't help my FPS I would like it to help my game crashes. Since you were such a big help with this problem I was hoping you could help me with this if you want. Here's the link:

http://forums.filefront.com/es-problems-errors-help/388896-need-help-load-order-oblivion-mod-manager.html#post4739576

When I connect back to the internet I'll post back here and tell you how it worked. Again, thanks a lot you were a very big help!




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#4 10 years ago

I just tried deleting the files in those two folders you mentioned, and turning off the firewall, anti-virus, and disconnecting from the internet and it helped a lot! I also got rid of unneeded processes running in the backround. I have another question though. The only way I can change the priority in the task manager for Oblivion is if I press ctrl+alt+delete in game and change it then. But if I exit out of the task manager my game freezes. If the task manager is running the backround will it slow down Oblivion at all? Cause it says it's using quite a bit of CPU usage. And just how much will setting the priority for Oblivon help my FPS? And what about the priority thing, is "high" the highest or is it "realtime"? Sorry that I'm asking a lot of questions and I know that last one may seem like a n00b question but I never really used the priority settings before. And about the "win 98" thing, do you mean "windows 98? And I just thought of something. I remember hearing that the keychain mod for Oblivion can cause inventory lag. Is this true? Cause I did noticed that anything that has to do with my inventory takes a while to load, and some times it even takes a couple seconds for an item to go from my inventory into a container, or vice versa, but I just always thought this was because of all the weapons I have in my inventory. And if the keychain mod can cause lag, what about these other two mods, "The Bag of Holding" and the "Portable Campsite" mods? The "Bag of Holding" mod adds a misc item that gives you a portable conainer, or basically a second inventory. The "Portable Campsite" mod also has a "Portable sack" that does the same thing. Would these both cause lag since they're kind of like the keychain, even if I don't have anything in the containers? Again sorry for all the questions. You can kind of tell that I'm desperate. My FPS really wasn't that bad, but I just want to make sure my FPS is as best as it can get.




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#5 10 years ago

by the windows 98 thing i mean the look of the desktop, as in, the old grey looking start menu ect, all the colors and icons take some memory to maintain, it really doesn't affect much in game, and if you change the priority of the game to high it will use more memory for the game instead of other applications, if its causing your game to crash dont do it though, it sometimes works for me but ive noticed its not worth the chance of freezing my game =D by allowing oblivion to have more memory or freeing up memory, it allows your game to use up more which means better fps =) im not sure about the mods though, i know visual mods can cause some lag bu im not sure about invintory mods unless you got a surplus of invintroy in which case it might lag when opening or closing.

also if you manage to change the priority of oblivion while in game, dont try realtime, as ive tried it with oblivion and dawn of war and it crashed both games and my computer. again, i cant really help you in the way of mods as i dont have many, especially the visual mods cause i lowered my graphics heavily so i could play with minimum lag, playing on a laptop doesnt help much either =D




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#6 10 years ago

and im not sure about the task manager slowing down oblivion, if it does it should be minimal.

btw you have vista or xp?

i dont know how it works with vista as i was fighting with my friends laptop trying to make it run at all, if you want to try the classic destop look heres how to get it (at least with xp anyways)

right click on your desktop, and or go to display properties, you should see the text Theme: under it is a selection box, you can then choose from any of those, this is were you can select the classic menu look which will help free up some memory, if you dont notice it or dont like it you can always change it back :)




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#7 10 years ago

I can never remember if I'm running Vista or XP. I think it's Vista, but it could still be XP. I also read somewhere that having a large amount of gold can make your game lag. I don't believe it, but I used "player.removeitem 0000000f # here" in the console to try it out, and I didn't notice much of a difference. If it does cause any kind of lag it would be inventory lag wouldn't it? So yeah if you can think of anything else that might help my FPS just mention it. My game still lags a bit while fighting outdoors.

And what about the load order? I'm still stuck on that. The link to that thread is in one of my above posts. Someone said that this would also help game crashes. Maybe you can help with this other problem that I think the load order caused. I explained it in my last post in the thread.




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#8 10 years ago

I don't know what caused this, but I think it might be the fact of setting Oblivion's priority in the task manager to high might have caused this, because this happened right after I did that. Occasionally now whenever I get into a fight, enemies will just stand there and do nothing. They'll have their weapons drawn but the just stand there and won't attack unless you get close to them. Archers will still attack at a distance but won't move. I don't think the load order is the fault of this because this happened a couple months after I did the load order thing. So I was wondering how this happened and if it can be fixed.