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AzH

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#1 11 years ago

I'm posting this here because I want a response from those that matter; staff and members. It is not in Feedback because I didn't post it there out of choice, not because I'm a fool who can't choose the right forum for a thread. I want a discussion about the rules, not to just feedback my opinions to the regime.

[COLOR="Red"]I respectfully request that you do not remove this thread from General Discussion.[/COLOR]

Question: Do you think the rules and how they are enforced, is a little too harsh these days?

If there is one way to rip the heart out of a community it is to not allow the people who make up that community to have fun. Trust me, I've built a reasonably successful community out of nothing and I know the reason people stick is because I allow them to enjoy themselves. There is no fighting, no bickering, no falling out, just free people having a free time. Why is that not going on here? Because the rules need a severe overhaul and the people who enforce them need to chillax 100% and step back and see if any damage is really being done by someone posting something which may be tongue in cheek or perhaps not War & Peace. Twice recently we've seen action taken by staff members here which has spilled over, or could have spilled over, into shit elsewhere. Do you know what? I don't blame them. I blame the system. There needs to be some education for the mindless drones who enforce the rules around here. They need to be taught that rules are there to protect the innocent, not punish the guy or girl who is not harming anybody.

To ban a member for making a harmless joke is silly; irrespective of their previous history

To delete posts for an apparent lack of effort is silly

Both of these things have happened recently and it's making me question why I even bother returning here. Why would the ordinary forum member bother to attend a forum where they were expected to work within inflexible guidelines and where harsh punishments are dealt out for minor indiscretions?

All I'm asking here, boys and girls, is that you give some serious thought to the future of this community you are trying to protect. You may be protecting the now, but what about the future? The future of this community should be of importance to all of you. As a new community manager I know that the key to growth is not to stifle the people who matter, the members, it is to encourage them so that they encourage others and so things get better.

Things are not getting better.

Opinions are sought from all. I'm not interested in the justification for the ban mentioned above or for the deletions mentioned above. They are just there as examples. Opinions on the rules and how they are enforced is what I'm asking for.

Respectfully,

AzH




Benzin

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#2 11 years ago

I have thought that you temp-ban people a little to quickly, I'm not sure if you have it hear but on invision boards they have a warn system, which goes up 10% for each warn. maybe add this and when it reaches 50-70% then they get temp banned and then at 100% they get perma-banned.




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#3 11 years ago
Question: Do you think the rules and how they are enforced, is a little too harsh these days?

I'm sure you remember as well as I do that the rules om advertising, for example, used to be somewhat more enforced than I recall them being when we were running the show. Back in the day, half of what I was known for was having a post removed and the user banned in the same minute that it was posted. Nowadays it'd be my head for that kind of action. ;)

I do agree on one aspect - The forums are a lot more regulated than before. Maybe it's a FileFront thing, I don't know and don't care to speculate. Fact is, when I joined in 2003 we had the great discussions involving asteroids crashing into our planet in 2015 and other such legendary nonsense, which simply couldn't happen in today's environment. There's probably not going to be another time like back then...Not here.

I guess being subject to a company policy does things to forums, as they seem to think that liability for every single post - Even when stated otherwise in the terms and conditions - Lies with them. If I was as image-conscious as these forums, I'd do something about my hair...




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#4 11 years ago

I agree that punishments are dealt for overly trivial things, especially if you're thinking of the same banned user I'm thinking of.

Unfortunately, ZDM owns our souls and that means different rules and policies for all of us. I agree that it's too corporate and not enough oriented around the community anymore.




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#5 11 years ago

Ive done some things wrong on the forums before but I've yet to be banned. I know I've been warned about verbally attacking members in the pub and not being civil and what not but I was simply warned and given a second chance, and a third one for that matter, so I don't really think the rules are harsh at all.




Marine Sniper15

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#6 11 years ago

I agree with you AZH. I have seen numerous occasions where people were permanantly or temporarily banned for a stupid reason. I also believe that the staff should chill a little bit and only take serious action when it absolutely needs to be taken.




Mast3rofPuppets VIP Member

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#7 11 years ago

I've been a member for one year and staff for 2 and a half years and I can't say that I agree with your first statement ([SIZE="1"]To ban a member for making a harmless joke is silly; irrespective of their previous history[/SIZE]). During my years here I've been temp-banned two times. IIRC the first time was for posting that I had downloaded a movie and the second time was when I posted a link to a site with dead people (read this thread to put that in context). I never got a warning, I got banned directly. So I'd say the staff used the ban-stick more a few years ago than we're doing now, there's people that have 15 usernotes and numerous PM warnings but never had a temp-ban.

As for your "To delete posts for an apparent lack of effort is silly" point I agree with you, atleast to an extent.




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#8 11 years ago

Hey AzH whatup?

Im up for a good discussion, pick a topic. :)

I can see your point and agree with you on some of them.




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#9 11 years ago

I think some of the rules here are completely ridiculous and trivial.

There was one guy who was banned because "he didn't merge his posts." Oh, heaven forbid! This man should be hanged! And not only that, it was in his own thread which he had selflessly made with a view to help others. It's pathetic.

The no swearing rule is stupid, what is this? A nunnery? Jeez. Not only that, but some of the mods swear anyway, so great double standards there. :rolleyes:

If you post an opinion that is a little unorthodox, it will most likely be deleted or edited. So much for free speech.

In a thread recently i was having a heated debate and i was told to "calm down" by a mod. I mean seriously, what do you think i'm going to do, hurt the people in the thread? Is my passionate debating nature going to overload the bandwidth and crash the server? I'd really like to know.

I post on many forums and this is by far the most strict. No forum is like this. There are WAY too many mods and obviously, most mods want to feel powerful, so they will power trip on the most trivial thing, and heaven forbid should you disagree with them. Sorry, but it's true. There was even a mod who was almost illiterate, i mean, who chooses these mods?

Anyway, yes you're probably thinking that i should stick to my other forums but the truth is, i really like debating on this forum. But it is way too strict and i think it should be toned down. It is a gaming forum after all, not a school, server. 80% of the games are damn violent and contain swearing anyway, so it's pretty stupid to be so strict.




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#10 11 years ago

I agree - this place used to be more fun. I think the staff should let more 'bad' posts slide. One or two word posts don't need to be deleted, its not like they harm anyone or anything. It'd be funkier if the staff maybe relaxed a bit with regards to most threads and stuff. The only things that need deleting are the really bad ones. But I know its hard to relax because its easy for something to reflect badly onto Filefront and what's his face that owns it nowadays.