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Deanoz

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#1 12 years ago

What do you all think about individuals taking justice into their own hands? http://youtube.com/watch?v=R0CasxnKHoE Ouch, and regardless of the personal feelings of the fellow officers they have a system to maintain and judging by the video I think this was at the least, very excessive forced used against the killer. Of course people have beliefs that things should be different, but in the U.S. we have the law to abide by; the law determines the punishment and distributes justice(which abides by and is limited by certain regulations), not officers that are supposed to be upholding it. I don't know how the officers were cleared of wrongdoing.




Lyon

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#2 12 years ago

He murdered a cop in cold blood moments earlier. My humble opinion that he was lucky to escape with a beating.

Do I care about rules being bent when justice is being served to a man like this?

No, I do not.




Tas

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#3 12 years ago

He killed a police officer in cold blood, someone he didnt know, and was probably just doing his job serving the justice department. There is no justification, and he deserved every hit he took.. if he indeed took a hit. The man jumpeddown 3 floors...

Killing an honest police officer is about the worst thing you can do.




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#4 12 years ago

Well I think ultimately the idea of vigilante justice such as what the cops displayed is a bad thing because it can lead to people simply attacking people they don't like, but in this case it is perfectly understandable why they would do it and they guy definitely deserves it. The only problem is here in the U.S. that would give the guy some leverage in a court. Being attacked by an arresting officer is often enough to let you off the hook for lesser crimes and even with murder it is something that the defendant would like to have on his side.




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#5 12 years ago

The justice system is impartial. It sucks, but it's the law, otherwise, we'd have vigilantes running around, claiming murder as justice.




Mephistopheles

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#6 12 years ago
Deanoz;3614737I don't know how the officers were cleared of wrongdoing.

Videos are manipulative. At least read what the involved officers said about the arrest: [COLOR="Blue"] http://www.boston.com/news/local/rhode_island/articles/2006/06/13/fbi_agent_state_trooper_describe_esteban_carpios_arrest/ [/COLOR] Of course, it is up to you to believe what they said.

But this psychotic guy had shot a cop straight into the face (after already having killed an old woman) and jumped out of a window in the third floor. I don't doubt that when those officers found him an hour later and tried to arrest him he fiercely fought back - and received some well-placed punches in return.

I am against excessive violence. But in this case this asshole probably deserved it (because he didn't give up).

Nevertheless, nobody of us has actually eye-witnessed the arrest, so who wants to play the judge?




Deanoz

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#7 12 years ago

I don't know what context the violence was used in. If the violence was used to contain the murderer and to prevent him from escaping, etc. then it was obviously necessary. Ultimately I don't know how that entire situation went down. Looking back on the story, the video didn't really provide another point of view or additional information that is necessary for finding out what actually happened.




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#8 12 years ago

I think individuals never should take justice in their own hands, they are not in the position of doing it, however it can be very hard sometimes. I don't blame those cops of doing that, however i blame the justice that the cops got away with it. A fine would be the least.




Joe Bonham

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#9 12 years ago

This feeling is unique to the USA. If he went and screwed around with French or German police officers, they'd do more than give him a beating. He got off lucky, I say.




Mephistopheles

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#10 12 years ago
Machiavelli's Apprentice;3616926If he went and screwed around with French or German police officers, they'd do more than give him a beating.

Care to explain why you think so?




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