Abortion debate comming the Supreme Court. 335 replies

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Pethegreat VIP Member

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#1 12 years ago

Well this has been long in the making. The US supreme court is going to hear an abortion case.

Link:http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1654626,00.html

I think its great, you get pregrant when your a teen you deserve to live with the consequences.

I have to go I will post more on this tommrow.




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#2 12 years ago

Seeing the suprecourt looks the be rather convervative I fear the worst. Besides it's up to the goverment to come up with a law that clearly bans or legalizes abortion and under which conditions. If a law doesn't include certain restrictions such as age then there are none untill the parliament passes a new edition of said law. :clueless:

"The case revolves around an attempt by the state of New Hampshire to introduce a law that would bar doctors from performing an abortion on a girl younger than 18 unless one of her parents has been notified, even when the girl has a health emergency."

Hmm that's just great, "Sorry Ma'am your life is in danger but we are unable to contact your parent's. Can you please hang out for a little while longer? Kthx BEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPppppppppp ".

I think its great, you get pregrant when your a teen you deserve to live with the consequences.

Not that point again, you seem to think every damn pregnant girl had no option to avoid it, accidents can still happen! Then we have rape etc.

And even those who were "careless" still don't deserve to get their entire life's royally screwed up over a baby. Not to mention baby might have a miserable life if the parents simply are not able to take are off it. I rather remove a bunch of cells then to see a baby die of neglect or even get murdered (young parents have been know to panic and kill of their child simply because they would not be able to care for it).

Then we have th scenario were the parents shouldn't find out at all and a "secrect" abortion is in the best intrest of the girls/boys physical and mental well being. In the end it all comes down to "pro-choice". Who are you to say what an other should do with his/her life?




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#3 12 years ago

I am strongly against abortion, but I don't think it should be made illegal, it would create too many problems. I am pro-choice, the choice on whether or not to have sex. Of course rape complicates the issue, though I wish adoption was a choice that more people took. I think parents should be notified on whether or not their child (Minor) is having an abortion. In the rare scenario that somehow an emergency abortion needs to take place, that's a different matter. Technically if a minor is pregnent it is "illegal" due to all of those statutory rape laws. Why all of a sudden are parents not to be notified if technically she was raped or was having an illegal sexual relationship with someone? I find a lot of this contradicting itself.




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#4 12 years ago

Yeah, but statutory rape is a funny issue in itself. Here in Canada, 14 years is the age of consent, because above that things get all wonky, even though both parties are consenting. I can understand other's views on abortions, but to me, if abortion is done right, it's not "murder" or even killing a human being-- it's removing a bunch of unconcious cells. An embryo is just as much of a "would-be" to me as the millions of sperm that ocme out every time I ejaculate. That's why I think people should have the chance for abortion. It is, too, a difficult task for the mother aborting, but it's probably a better alternative for greatly hampering the life of the mother and the life of the kid. For all we know, if the mother had aborted she could've gone and got a post-secondary education, and had a great job and THEN had a kid intentionally who would be given a great chance at life. But that is my strictly anatomical view of abortion. I understand how morals could become a factor, as could spirituality. Slightly on the topic: Pope may abolish concept of limbo http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051130/od_nm/pope_limbo_dc Interesting enough...




Artie Bucco

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#5 12 years ago

How about allowing teens to have easier acess to Emergency contraceptives?




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#6 12 years ago

That would be ideal, but a) some people see that as a form of abortion and b) that requires extensive education on limitations and what it is exactly. They're usually pretty specific.




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#7 12 years ago
Artie BuccoHow about allowing teens to have easier acess to Emergency contraceptives?

They have acess to them, In nearly every 7-11 bathroom and store. If you can't find them then why are you doing it? Also, teens need some more common sense. You can use a million and one devices and still get aids, crabs, or pregant. Stop and think before you hop into bed, please.

And even those who were "careless" still don't deserve to get their entire life's royally screwed up over a baby. Not to mention baby might have a miserable life if the parents simply are not able to take are off it. I rather remove a bunch of cells then to see a baby die of neglect or even get murdered (young parents have been know to panic and kill of their child simply because they would not be able to care for it).

I don't see how it is going to make the kid's life better when he does not have a life. Dontiz, there are ways you can put your kid up for adoption. There are a ton of people out there who would love a kid but they can't concive one. There is more than one way out of being a parent, I woul rather see eveyone benefit from it, not just the parents.

I can understand other's views on abortions, but to me, if abortion is done right, it's not "murder" or even killing a human being-- it's removing a bunch of unconcious cells. An embryo is just as much of a "would-be" to me as the millions of sperm that ocme out every time I ejaculate.

The differnce is that the "bunch of cells" have their own unique genes that are from the human species. Also, they can start feeling pain pretty qucikly. I doubt you would like to get cut into pices or burned to death;). That is from a purely anatomical view of it.

Why can't you put the kid up for adoption insted of killing him/her? The parents get rid of the kid, the kid lives, and a couple who wants a kid gets one.




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#8 12 years ago

Changing the law will do nothing, there will always be teens that get nocked up, if they can't go to doctor they will find a coat hanger. Which sounds better to you?

But looking the other way I heard a stat from Planned Parent hood (or something) that only about 2% of abortions are due to rape, and something like 40% of women who get an abortion with have more then one.




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#9 12 years ago
PethegreatThey have acess to them, In nearly every 7-11 bathroom and store. If you can't find them then why are you doing it? Also, teens need some more common sense. You can use a million and one devices and still get aids, crabs, or pregant. Stop and think before you hop into bed, please.

Holy god!! You can buy the morning after pill at 7-11? The fact the matter is that promoting abstinence has failed and has been failing for a while. Teens and people in general are going to have sex, so shouldn't you teach them abstenince but the practice of safer sex. In case you didn't Emergency contraveptives refer to this.

Emergency contraception or EC also known as Emergency Birth Control or EBC refers to any type of contraception that is taken after sexual intercourse without contraception, or otherwise where such contraception is believed to have failed (e.g. a condom was used, but it broke)..




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#10 12 years ago

No you can't buy those pills, you need a perscription That pill is sick, you starve/burn off a human/clump of cells/fetus over a period of several days.

The fact the matter is that promiting abstinence has failed has been failing for a while

The problem is not many of them learn the consequeces of it. Yeah is good, but it was intented for procreation. The good felling was added later by evloution to help speed procreation up.

Changing the law will do nothing, there will always be teens that get nocked up, if they can't go to doctor they will find a coat hanger. Which sounds better to you?

The coat hanger. If you can't wait 9 months, 270 days, to get rid of it naturally and put it up for adoption then you should not be able to have kids.