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Joe Bonham

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#21 8 years ago
NiteStryker;5410614Ah ok, because that rule seems to stop sooooo many people here in the US. The military DUI rates in CONUS are staggering.

Then I wonder why we don't have planes dropping all over the place and tanks crashing through suburb walls? Troops seem to be able to handle alcohol alright on duty in the UNITED STATES. Yet for some reason, it is assumed they can't while overseas.

You do realize that people who aren't complete pogs do drive military vehicles and shoot guns while in the USA, right?

Lets increase the stress of daily life many times over and halfway across the world and see what happens when we have alcohol added to the mix! (Hint: Nothing good).

Hilarious assumption. Especially considering American troops seemed to be able to handle alcohol in previous wars. Yet all of the sudden now they can't. Hmmm. Is that truth, or just propaganda?

Zoh. My. God.

Exactly. Because Christian fanatics control the military. Same reason non-Christians are punished and penalized at the air force academy. The Christian Taliban controls the biggest military force in the world. Great.

Lots of things in the military dont make sense. Only a boot would be surprised by this.

Only a boot would just shrug and say "it doesn't make sense". Everything makes sense in some respect or another. They don't just make up rules because they feel like it. Every rule out there serves some kind of ideological agenda.

For example, tattoos are frowned upon because most officers are upper class Americans who view body art as "lower class", and it upsets them.

Another example would be porn or alcohol. Many officers are radical Christians, and see these things as bad. Not to mention you have all these Christian crazies on the civilian side putting pressure on them.




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#22 8 years ago

Bohemund;5410705Then I wonder why we don't have planes dropping all over the place and tanks crashing through suburb walls? Troops seem to be able to handle alcohol alright on duty in the UNITED STATES. Yet for some reason, it is assumed they can't while overseas. [/QUOTE] Im speaking about off-duty mishaps. In the 1st Marine Division, there is at least a DUI a day. All off-duty. Now, if you introduce alcohol to a combat environment, with the amount that Marines drink, given the possibility of action any second, why do you think that nothing bad would happen?

Bohemund;5410705 You do realize that people who aren't complete pogs do drive military vehicles and shoot guns while in the USA, right? [/QUOTE] I just returned from Steel Knight in 29 Palms, where I was driving vehicles everywhere and did 7 weapons ranges. I am well aware of this.

Bohemund;5410705 Hilarious assumption. Especially considering American troops seemed to be able to handle alcohol in previous wars. [/QUOTE] "Handle" is subjective. You mean nobody got hurt, or just not alot of people?

Bohemund;5410705 Yet all of the sudden now they can't. Hmmm. Is that truth, or just propaganda? [/QUOTE] Grunt units always have alcohol issues.

[QUOTE=Bohemund;5410705] Same reason non-Christians are punished and penalized at the air force academy.

....um......what?

[QUOTE=Bohemund;5410705] Only a boot would just shrug and say "it doesn't make sense". Everything makes sense in some respect or another.

You have said some pretty dumb things, but ^ that right there tops it. You know as well as I do that many things in the military are done simply because "thats how its always been done".

[QUOTE=Bohemund;5410705] They don't just make up rules because they feel like it.

Bull fucking shit they dont.

[QUOTE=Bohemund;5410705] For example, tattoos are frowned upon because most officers are upper class Americans who view body art as "lower class", and it upsets them.

It also detracts from a "professional" image. Any decent-paying job would say the same thing.




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#23 8 years ago
NiteStryker;5410717Im speaking about off-duty mishaps. In the 1st Marine Division, there is at least a DUI a day. All off-duty. Now, if you introduce alcohol to a combat environment, with the amount that Marines drink, given the possibility of action any second, why do you think that nothing bad would happen?

No, because virtually every other American base on the face of the planet allows drinking, even on "combat deployments", yet serious incidents are at acceptable levels. Hell, we were allowed to drink at Kyrgistan while waiting for a plane back home. Air force guys are allowed to drink there, even though they are surrounded by millions of dollars of heavy equipment, weapons, and vehicles. Yet they seem able to handle it.

I just returned from Steel Knight in 29 Palms, where I was driving vehicles everywhere and did 7 weapons ranges. I am well aware of this.

Yet Marines are allowed to drink at 29 palms while off duty, including the marines on field ops like yourself or me when I was at Mojave Viper. Did any tanks crash while you were there?

"Handle" is subjective. You mean nobody got hurt, or just not alot of people?

Grunt units always have alcohol issues.

It's ridiculous standards like this that make the reenlistment rates so low. Expect people to want to go and fight and die in a foreign hell hole, and then treat them like small children when it comes to their own lives. Really?

....um......what?

Intolerance Found at Air Force Academy - washingtonpost.com

You have said some pretty dumb things, but ^ that right there tops it. You know as well as I do that many things in the military are done simply because "thats how its always been done".

That's a reason in itself. Military leaders tend to be extremely conservative, and are afraid of change. So no, you are still wrong. Unwillingness to change is a reason.

Bull fucking shit they dont.

Just because you are too low on the totem pole to see the political forces at work in the upper ranks of the military don't assume they don't exist.

It also detracts from a "professional" image. Any decent-paying job would say the same thing.

For the same reasons. Any well-bred rich white boy will frown upon tattoos, whether he's a colonel or a banker.




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#24 8 years ago

Oh n0es! A game that contains bad things for our poor citizens! WE must immediately ban it! It is so bad! Shooting taliban pixels in a game! The world shall end!




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#25 8 years ago

Bohemund;5410747No, because virtually every other American base on the face of the planet allows drinking, even on "combat deployments", yet serious incidents are at acceptable levels. [/QUOTE] Last time I checked, there was no alcohol allowed in combat zones.

Bohemund;5410747 Hell, we were allowed to drink at Kyrgistan while waiting for a plane back home. [/QUOTE] How about in the combat theater itself?

Bohemund;5410747 Air force guys are allowed to drink there, even though they are surrounded by millions of dollars of heavy equipment, weapons, and vehicles. Yet they seem able to handle it. [/QUOTE] Air Force also has substantially smarter people than the Marine Corps.

Bohemund;5410747 Yet Marines are allowed to drink at 29 palms while off duty, including the marines on field ops like yourself or me when I was at Mojave Viper. [/QUOTE] No they're not. I was there in 07 and they couldnt drink then either. Not at Wilson.

Bohemund;5410747 Did any tanks crash while you were there? [/QUOTE] No. Some F-18's mistook our BSA for the impact zone. That was great fun.

[QUOTE=Bohemund;5410747] It's ridiculous standards like this that make the reenlistment rates so low.

No, its the bullshit games that fuck reenlistment rates.

[QUOTE=Bohemund;5410747] Expect people to want to go and fight and die in a foreign hell hole, and then treat them like small children when it comes to their own lives. Really?

Thats how the whole military is. You should know this. Every weekend safety brief? They have to tell you to not stick forks in electrical sockets.

[QUOTE=Bohemund;5410747] That's a reason in itself. Military leaders tend to be extremely conservative, and are afraid of change. So no, you are still wrong. Unwillingness to change is a reason.

Not really, thats just more of a course of action.

[QUOTE=Bohemund;5410747] Just because you are too low on the totem pole to see the political forces at work in the upper ranks of the military don't assume they don't exist.

Maybe its at the general and above level, but I doubt you have not experienced a time where one person says one thing to you, and another person around that level says the exact opposite.

[QUOTE=Bohemund;5410747] For the same reasons. Any well-bred rich white boy will frown upon tattoos, whether he's a colonel or a banker.

So you are saying the only people in professional positions are white?

Try and get hired at a job requiring a college degree and a decent IQ if you have more ink on your arms than a book. Wont happen. Maybe a auto shop worker, but nothing that requires more brain than muscle.




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#26 8 years ago
NiteStryker;5410836Last time I checked, there was no alcohol allowed in combat zones.

Believe it or not Manis air force base counts as a deployment, with hazardous duty pay.

How about in the combat theater itself?

Obviously not.

Air Force also has substantially smarter people than the Marine Corps.

Which is true. But all four services are banned from alcohol in theater, not just the Fucktard Corps

No they're not. I was there in 07 and they couldnt drink then either. Not at Wilson.

Hmm? We drank when we went over there in 08, even at Wilson. Odd. Maybe they changed it after you left.

No. Some F-18's mistook our BSA for the impact zone. That was great fun.

A mistake they made completely sober I'm assuming. Because if they were flying drunk, they'd have lost their wings and probably be sitting in a jail cell right now.

No, its the bullshit games that fuck reenlistment rates.

Games caused by the red tape of the regulations we have to follow.

Thats how the whole military is. You should know this. Every weekend safety brief? They have to tell you to not stick forks in electrical sockets.

Which is pretty absurd on the face of it. But when you realize that modern America values safety over freedom, it makes sense.

omgz terrorists! omgz car accidents omgz sharp objects! More big government, more security!

Do that for a few decades, and pretty soon you have a system that is so locked down and restrictive, everybody hates it.

Not really, thats just more of a course of action.
Maybe its at the general and above level, but I doubt you have not experienced a time where one person says one thing to you, and another person around that level says the exact opposite.

Which once again, has some sort of reason behind it - be it a basic breakdown in communication, or just two school yard bullies trying to overrule eachother. Sergeants and above are generally arrogant blowhards - you know this!

So you are saying the only people in professional positions are white?

The majority are. I'm not trying to be racist, but that's just how it is. You can't get very far unless you go to an expensive college, which almost requires rich parents, and most rich people are white.

Try and get hired at a job requiring a college degree and a decent IQ if you have more ink on your arms than a book. Wont happen. Maybe a auto shop worker, but nothing that requires more brain than muscle.

Which is true, but do you understand the reason behind it?

Humans are genetically hardwired to be on the lookout for d signs of your status. Historically, it was good (especially for women) to have a light complexion, because that implies you spend most of your time indoors in a life of leisure. It's a sign of social class which other rich people will judge you by.

Back in the 19th century a lot of lower class people worked their way up and earned a fortune through hardwork. They were generally looked down upon by the social elite, because they weren't raised with the ettiquete that every child of the elite would be taught from birth onwards.




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#27 8 years ago
Serio;5403416They claim they're doing this out of respect for the soldiers. If anything, they're disrespecting more soldiers and families by trying to cover up the true faces of the enemy. It's ridiculous. I didn't see them go out an change the Axis/Nazi factions of the earlier Medal of honor games out of respect for the fallen soldiers? ... Politicians :cort:

Your totally right dude i think part of the problem is that now video games treat a bit more seriously because of the progression of the industry so i think possibly if the gameig industry was like it is now back then maybe the early one like you say would be treat like this.