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#1 8 years ago

Al-Qaida calls on US Muslims to attack America - Yahoo! News

CAIRO – Al-Qaida's American-born spokesman on Sunday called on Muslims serving in the U.S. armed forces to emulate the Army major charged with killing 13 people in Fort Hood.

In a 25-minute video posted on militant Web sites, Adam Gadahn described Maj. Nidal Hasan as a pioneer who should serve as a role model for other Muslims, especially those serving Western militaries.

"Brother Nidal is the ideal role-model for every repentant Muslim in the armies of the unbelievers and apostate regimes," he said.

Gadahn, also known as Azzam al-Amriki, was dressed in white robes and wearing a white turban as he called for attacks on what he described as "high-value targets."

"You shouldn't make the mistake of thinking that military bases are the only high-value targets in America and the West. On the contrary, there are countless other strategic places, institutions and installations which, by striking, the Muslim can do major damage," he said, an assault rifle leaning up against a wall next to him.

Gadahn grew up on a goat farm in Riverside County, California, and converted to Islam at a mosque in nearby Orange County.[/QUOTE]

First off....these guys are reeeeally pissing me off.

Second, I laughed hard at the bolded sentence. Dude isnt even a real muslim. Here is his picture:

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So, to look muslim, we just let a beard grow, then hack it off jaggedly? :lulz:

Dude was from a Goat Farm in Riverside COUNTY. It doesnt even say what city he was from because Riverside county encompasses half the mojave desert and he probably wasnt in a city of any kind. No wonder hes calling for attacks on America. I'd be pissed as hell if I grew up there.

But hes a poser. Hes not even a real muslim. Hes just a pissed off goat farmer. :lulz:

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UPDATE: Officers: Pakistan arrests American-born al-Qaida - Yahoo! News

[QUOTE=]KARACHI, Pakistan – Pakistani intelligence agents have arrested Adam Gadahn, the American-born spokesman for al-Qaida, in an operation in the southern city of Karachi, two officers and a government official said Sunday.

The arrest of Gadahn is a major victory in the U.S.-led battle against al-Qaida and will be taken as a sign that Pakistan is cooperating more fully with Washington. It follows the recent detentions of several Afghan Taliban commanders in Karachi.

Gadahn was arrested in the sprawling southern metropolis in recent days, two officers who took part in the operation said. A senior government official also confirmed the arrest.

HAHA. He opens his mouth and calls for American attacks and is arrested 24 hours later. Victory.




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#2 8 years ago

"Pissed off goat farmer" is a pretty good way to describe many extremists, man.




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#3 8 years ago

Why can't these people just blow themselves up on their own, and in their own land? Seriously? These lot moan and complain about the US (and other powers) getting aggressive and such, yet they're no different; they're blowing shit up (including themselves) too.

One thing I will say, is that we shouldn't be directing this entirely at Muslims. Not all Muslims are nut jobs that want to go around with a bomb strapped to their stomach. Too many people criticize the Islamic religion as a whole, when to be fair, it is only a small minority that have taken this twisted path.




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#4 8 years ago

Aerilon;5261429Why can't these people just blow themselves up on their own, and in their own land? Seriously? These lot moan and complain about the US (and other powers) getting aggressive and such, yet they're no different; they're blowing shit up (including themselves) too.

One thing I will say, is that we shouldn't be directing this entirely at Muslims. Not all Muslims are nut jobs that want to go around with a bomb strapped to their stomach. Too many people criticize the Islamic religion as a whole, when to be fair, it is only a small minority that have taken this twisted path.

The failure of moderates within these religions to condemn or even say anything at all about extremists within their ranks, amounts to condoning, and thus relegates them into the realm of accomplices.




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#5 8 years ago
Sedistix;5261530The failure of moderates within these religions to condemn or even say anything at all about extremists within their ranks, amounts to condoning, and thus relegates them into the realm of accomplices.

More higher-level religious authorities need to discourage this, you're right. Its seen as "silence = acceptance" by nearly everyone.




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#6 8 years ago

They do, but the media ignores it for some reason.




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#7 8 years ago

I saw an article in a magazine calling for moderate Muslims to speak out against their extremist friends. Most Muslims don't believe what they believe.

In any group, complacency is the way to allow extremists to gain power, stay in control, and do whatever the hell they want.

There's two lines in "Know Your Enemy" by RATM that can be applied to almost any situation like this (though the song is about the American govt.)

"I have no patience now. So sick of complacence now."




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NiteStryker;5261554More higher-level religious authorities need to discourage this, you're right. Its seen as "silence = acceptance" by nearly everyone.[/QUOTE] Exactly! [QUOTE=Warforger;5261569]They do, but the media ignores it for some reason.

The numbers of those who speak out against it are few and far between and usually from nobodies with zero influence. Why would the media care about the few hippies among the ranks?

The conflict resolution for those who stand against and seek to harm our working citizens, should be nothing short of obliteration.




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#9 8 years ago

The American born Al Qaeda spokesperson was just arrested in Karachi Pakistan.

BBC News - US al-Qaeda spokesman Adam Gadahn 'held in Pakistan'




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#10 8 years ago

Nite, what is a "real" Muslim? It's a religious classification and last I checked anyone can be a Muslim. There have been other cases of western-born people undergoing radicalization. The shoe bomber is a well known one, and even recently there was a terrorist plot foiled in Germany which had some Germans in their group.

That would be like me saying a "real" Christian is a white of European descent, but that's certainly not the case.

As for the situation of extremism in the Middle-East, it's easy to sit here in the comforts of a western home and criticize them for not standing up to the others, but the truth of the matter is there's really little room or toleration for that kind of dissent. The Middle-East had a period of revolutionary nationalist movements, but after the 1990s they began to lose credibility. With the failure of those movements people began to embrace some reactionary ideals because there really was little else for them to believe in.

Much of this is endemic in areas where there have been governments ineffective in delivering social services. Income disparity and poverty is very widespread in Egypt and gives extremists a good pool of bodies to recruit from. Palestinians have lost faith in the traditional PLO/Fatah, and have come to embrace Hamas. Syria's experiencing its own issues with these groups. Jordan would have fallen had it not been massive support from the West. Many of this is compounded by them feeling their governments have sold out to western interests in order to keep themselves in power.

Accordingly when you see the backgrounds of many captured terrorists the Americans are running into, they tend to be from Egypt or the peninsula states, where the income disparities are the highest. Additionally you'll have a considerable number of Palestinian ones, but they tend to focus efforts within Israel.

For many of these people of the Middle-East, the alternatives to extremism have been painted as being either corrupt or in the pockets of corporations. Combine this with poverty and they are easy pickings for radicalization.

Sedistix;5261577 The numbers of those who speak out against it are few and far between and usually from nobodies with zero influence. Why would the media care about the few hippies among the ranks?

The Grand Mufti of Egypt, the Grand Mufti in Saudi Arabia, and the highest mullah in Pakistan have all issued their own condemnation of terrorist activities. The Grand Mufti in India has told his followers not to fall to Wahabi teachings, which are a back door for extremest thoughts. The problem comes in though is they say these things, does the living conditions of their people improve? No, and their people will continue to participate in anti-establishment movements in the Middle-East, which is currently embodied by extremist groups.

The struggle against "imperialism" has also fallen to these groups. People who go otherwise can be ostracized out of their communities for being collaborationist.

The dissidents already having issues fending off the bully attacks from extremists, can not hope to find support from Western regimes. Many of them are just as suspicious towards Western interests in the region and as such they have little interest in helping them out.

Finally Islam lacks a central spokesperson. Most of the time many of these radicals tend to work within ethnic groups and tailor the message to suit that group's needs. This is also why Al-Qaeda is hard to completely destroy. One can destroy so many chiefs and bosses, but they will continue to sprout up so as long as the life quality of their recruits are terrible. If anything Al-Qaeda can be seen as an umbrella organization for numerous like-minded groups.

And I think the biggest problem really is that Muslims have not really progressed to a point that many Western nations are, that is the questioning of religion as an absolute truth and the clerics which preach it. But considering how long the Western nations took to arrive at that point, and how much progress there still remains for that, it looks bad for Muslims trying to break out of the shell of radicalism.

As for Mr. Gadhan he was a raving lunatic. I doubt he caused much damage, because the way some people were putting it, he should have provoked Muslims living in America to all rise up (particularly considering how long 'Azzam the American' was ranting), which didn't happen. He had to try and call up the spectre of the Fort Hood shootings to try and act like there was something going on.




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