I've been reading this book and it is simply awe inspiring. It is written with such eloquence and intelligence, that I'm amazed that this came from a human mind. I recommend all of you to pick up a copy today. It's a really difficult read, however a worthwhile one.
He also has some incredible truthful quotes about humanity and the world we live in:
You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religion... Dogs do not ritually urinate in the hope of persuading heaven to do the same and send down rain. Asses do not bray a liturgy to cloudless skies. Nor do cats attempt, by abstinence from cat's meat, to wheedle the feline spirits into benevolence. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite intelligent enough.
Liberty? Why it doesn't exist. There is no liberty in this world, just gilded cages.
On psychological totalitarianism:
And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be within the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing ... a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda, brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods
Animals are not at the same level of intelligence, daft......... Liberty is an illusion, cant argue that. And the last bit is poetic, but pretty null and void, because you could apply it to anything. Glad your enjoying the read but ! good on ya !
Of course we can't have total liberty, it would be extremely impractical.
Dexter said the rest. Believe what you want.
Jeffro;4575304 On Religion:[/quote] We don't really know what does on in thier minds. Yeah, it's a good bet that they don't practice any kind of religion, but some animals may very well actually have rather simplistic Gods, much like our ancient ancestors did.
There are constraints on everything at all time. You can never literally do what you want. If the national government didn't exist the states would become the rulers. If the states didn't exist the counties would become the rulers. If the counties didn't exist cities would become the rulers. If cities didn't exsists there would be small villages, and even if they didn't exists there would be the family unit. Humans, hell ANIMALS rely on hierarchy and leadership. Someone rules, others follow. It is the way of life, as it is efficient and allows the species to survive. We have governments. Animals have packs and pack leaders.
[quote] On psychological totalitarianism:
Theres a certain amount of truth to this, but it's not a particularly big deal if you look at it that way. Happiness is the only measure of a good life. If you are happy in captivity, then you are still leading a good life because you are happy. The reason revolutionaries and freedom fighters exsists is because they aren't happy with that, freedom is what makes them happy (I fall into the second categorey btw. I think its stupid to give up freedom for security, for the most part)
Ihaterednecks;4576212Of course we can't have total liberty, it would be extremely impractical.
We haven't socially evolved enough in order to live in total freedom and, unfortunately, that will never happen to the human race. Ever.
Jeffro;4576594We haven't socially evolved enough in order to live in total freedom and, unfortunately, that will never happen to the human race. Ever.
Because we are animals, and animals are collectivists and organized. No animals really work entirely alone. If nothing else they have young to care for.
Afterburner;4576601Because we are animals, and animals are collectivists and organized. No animals really work entirely alone.
Organization and freedom are not mutually exclusive, so long as the association is voluntary.
homo sine domino;4579088Organization and freedom are not mutually exclusive, so long as the association is voluntary.
Which democracy generally is. Sometimes it messed up that point, and then people get all huffy and start demanding change and whatnot. Or else they aren't demanding change so must be quite fine with their set up.
Government is never voluntary.
homo sine domino;4579103Government is never voluntary.
Sure it is. You can always just leave the country. You won't get the benefits that would have come with living within society, but you still could.