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Relander

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#31 12 years ago
Chemix2;3661591It doesn't make you a machine, it simply means that you have a stable life, most people do not have a stable life and that isn't their fault, and if it is, that doesn't matter because none of us can change our pasts.

It doesn't take a machine to wake up, start preparations and/or leave home earlier, it's a matter of self-discipline and what people regard important: sleeping 15 minutes longer or getting to work in time without having to rush, getting stress from a hurry. You can have a stable life even if your pay check isn't that big, money isn't everything.




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#32 12 years ago

What comes to selfishness of the USA: the country has got that far by strongly protecting & promoting its own interests which sometimes have happened in the expense of others. Marshall Aid was there to contain the communist influence in Europe and strenghten the position of the USA there than just being unselfish act of helping a "fellow man". Iraq wasn't invaded for humanitarian reasons but due to global super power interests such as creating US stronghold into the Middle East and testing new weaponry & tactics. It all boils down to glorifying freedom, individuality and own responsibility in the USA, meaning that in practice, an individual is above others and what we individuals, humans basicly are? Selfish and greedy persons.

Now before anyone comes here shouting bull how I advocate communism (most people here know me better than that): I'm not saying that I'm some saint as obviously I'm not, I'm quite selfish when it comes to my relation with the members of my family. I'm not saying that instead of talking here about selfishness we should turn off the PC, sell it and put the money into charity as it wouldn't be meaningful from personal point of view. I'm not saying that big, powerful state bureaucracy is the key to solve all the problems of humanity.

What I'm saying is that being selfish is part of human nature and it can't be erased. Selfishness is a core attribute of human being and essential key for personal success. There's no point in being totally unselfish as our lives here are short & hard already and getting personal profit out from something gives us comfort, safety and sense of living. However this doesn't give people a right to screw over others, right on the contrary: power & freedom are followed by responsibility. Even though I'm not a Christian, I find the following phrase very universal & perfectly logical and which we all should consider: treat others the way you would like to be treated.




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#33 12 years ago
Marine Sniper15;3660322I dont think we are selfish at all. We have helped out many countries just in the past 50 years. I know many people are saying we didnt help Iraq at all, but we got Saddam out. If you look at all the recent conflicts we have been in, the U.S. has helped out at least one country every time.

The original basis for that invasion was that Iraq possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction and was in a position to use them to attack America or Israel, and that they were also harboring/supporting terrorists... not to simply remove Saddam and bring the Iraqi people democracy like it's a present you can pick up at the store. So if by 'help' you mean murder and rape some of their civilians, install an ineffective government and remove the one force keeping the country from degenerating into outright chaos and bloodshed then yes, your military certainly has... not to mention providing a focal point for terrorism in the region, almost guaranteeing it will increase rather than decrease.

Countries go to war because they don't like something another country is doing, or because another country attacked them and they want revenge. No war can truly be considered 'helpful.'

WWII was also mentioned earlier and it's the same thing... America refused to enter the war until they were attacked, then they declared war on the Japanese. America did not enter WWII to 'help', they entered the war 'cause they got their nose bloodied and wanted revenge.

However, the American military and government and the American people are two different topics... so back to the one at hand.

I think there are A LOT of people in my country as well who are selfish and generally ignorant, although I am generally misanthropic and have a low opinion of the human race in general.

North America and western culture in general has become progressively more materialist and consumer related, while also becoming more 'on demand'. It's a pretty vicious cycle revolving around your disposable income and probably around various socio-psychological factors, as well as the general dumbing down of education as a capitalist market influences more people to pursue studies that will make them money.

By this I mean that you spend time working to earn money to buy the things you need and the things you want.

What you want is determined by various factors, social ones like trends, or do you know someone who has one? Also advertising plays a massive role in this, and with less critical thinking/philosophy involved in education more people are less able to effectively determine what is right for them, and so rely on advertising or the word of others.

So then you purchase what you want and that money goes towards making a newer version with two more features in a different color that costs 1/3 more and last 2/3 as long.

You then work your ass off so you can make more money to buy one of those.

I wonder if any societies still use the barter system and if they have these kinds of problems?

This materialist nonsense in turn gets tied into such twisted things as social status or self-worth, thanks to a little reinforcement from an idiotic entertainment industry.

I think the mega mall is pretty much the embodiment of this shit in North America, and I have to wonder do they have these massive sprawling things in European countries?

Also in regards to people become ruder and more self-centered, I read in the paper awhile back about a study which found that as toys and methods of communication become more sterile and impersonal we lose our ability to empathize. The more we play a video game instead of baseball outside, or the more we talk on MSN than face to face or over the phone while growing up effects us when we're older. So to tie that into something else, it's not that playing something like 'Doom' is likely to predisposition you to committing murder, you are going to become substantially more desensitized to the concept.

I truly fear what the children growing up now will become, especially as they become more spoiled and pampered 'cause Liberal pansies are afraid of screwing them up.




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#34 12 years ago
the only problem about the wave when you drive is probably 80% didnt notice you wave, or they thought you knew the person in the next car and where waving to them i always honk and wave at my friends when i see them on the road, but they usualy dont notice me just cause they arent paying any attention or i see them walking they look around like idiots trying to figure out who honked

the only thing with that is there were no other cars around, when i'm going to school i meet 4 maybe 5 cars on a busy day, until i get to the hwy then i give up waving cause then no one can see me anyway.

yeah i get up at about 6:30AM get ready for school by about 7AM and leave at 7:15AM and i don't have to be there til 8AM it's a habit i'm always about 25 minutes early and that's the way i like it, unrushed.




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#35 12 years ago
the only problem about the wave when you drive is probably 80% didnt notice you wave, or they thought you knew the person in the next car and where waving to them i always honk and wave at my friends when i see them on the road, but they usualy dont notice me just cause they arent paying any attention or i see them walking they look around like idiots trying to figure out who honked

the only thing with that is there were no other cars around, when i'm going to school i meet 4 maybe 5 cars on a busy day, until i get to the hwy then i give up waving cause then no one can see me anyway.

yeah i get up at about 6:30AM get ready for school by about 7AM and leave at 7:15AM and i don't have to be there til 8AM it's a habit i'm always about 25 minutes early and that's the way i like it, unrushed.




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#36 12 years ago

whoa how'd that happen O_O




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#37 12 years ago

I've said it once, I'll say it again

We weant into Iraq because: 1. Guilt- We should have taken him out sooner 2. 5 Nations- Russia, Israel, Britain, & France (or was it Germany) told us Saddam had WMDs, as well as the CIA, which is apart of the 5th nation, the US 3. Oil- We hoped that the campaign would be payed for by oil that would bleed our way, thus a war without a deficit 4. Econemy Boost- The internet boom had begun to fall and recession was coming, a war looked more favorable because it could offer a boost to the econemy through jobs 5. 270,000- People, TORTURED TO DEATH BY SADDAM HUSSEIGN/ IRAQI government; If you think that things were better there before, then you can go to bagdhad and buy some DVD's taken from Sadam's palace, his personal records for review of his torture sessions. He tested a bomb on a fully functioning and in use, HOSPITAL. His sons were rapists, and on one occasion forced two french tourists to have sex at gun point, with possibly many more incidents like that going on over the years unreported. Furthermore, his actions towards the Kurds, not included in the 270,000 count, or the kuwaits who were brutally tortured and killed over the actions of oil coporations operating in those countries.




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#38 12 years ago

please dont turn this into an Iraq thread, there are enough of those as it is




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#39 12 years ago

I'm not saying removing Saddam was a bad thing, or that conditions weren't terrible before. My point was that wasn't the main reason touted, #2 was... and turned out to be wrong. Numbers 1, 3 & 4 just weren't mentioned openly.

Also an article such as this makes me wonder, but either way, death at the hands of a police state or death by means of unchecked sectarian violence, the killing hasn't really stopped. The fact that it's possible to buy a video of Saddam's death, or some DVDs taken from his palace I find slightly disturbing.

Although the same could be said for a lot of products sold in western stores that are just odd, or extravagant... yet there's a market for them. Selfish behaviour and greed are good for the economy.

Other than hippies or monks, can anyone think of any altruistic non-selfish sharing groups?

What point is too much acquisition? I mean, at what point after amassing 'x' amount of dollars do you suddenly become someone who is just greedy, at what point would you need to have, say, $86 million? Is there a point to amassing such wealth?

And I wonder why so many people worship these rich people and what they do and read about their lives or otherwise care. These people are such a small minority, and yet the majority doesn't seem to mind...




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#40 12 years ago

There isn't a point of too much aquisition. The point to ammassing wealth is the ability to escape the system that traps us, poverty, need, demands. When you are wealthy, you don't have to worry, you don't have to be affraid, those things are what other people worry about, fear of not having money to pay the bills, to keep the house, to buy food. When you escape poverty, you are then enabled to do what you want to do in life, instead of what you could do with your limited ability before.