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Macattack

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#1 14 years ago

I just want to bring up the fact that if the people that started this country would come here and say "This is not the country we made." And one big reason is the supreme court. They were supposed to be truthful about what the constitution said each thing would be but they're not. Atleast 5 out of 9 are, and that's all they need to do something. Very soon I believe this country is going to turn their back on Christians. The very people that started this country.:(




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#2 14 years ago

Ok, time for some facts:

1. George Washington was not a Christian. John Adams was not a Christian. Thomas Jefferson was not a Christian. This is not a Christian country. The Founding Fathers knew the dangers of a religious government and took pains to prevent it. What do you mean when you say the country is going to turn its back on Christians? As far as I see, I can still say that Jesus is my Saviour. I can still say that I am Christian. I can still go to church. I can still vote as I feel a Christian should vote. I don't feel as if the country has turned its back on me.

2. The Supreme Court is doing its job. The fourth Chief Justice of the United States, John Marshall, established the policy of judicial review in the milestone case of Marbury v. Madison, stating that the Supreme Court could declare any act already passed as unconstitutional. This has been a cornerstone of America. Where would we be without Brown v. Board of Education? McCulloch v. Maryland? Miranda v. Arizona? Tinker v. Des Moines? United States v. Nixon? The Supreme Court has been a great institution of good.

3. Well, the obvious answer to incompetent Supreme Court justices is impeachment. If you want to have the current Supreme Court removed in favor of a strict-constructionalist one, vote for the candidate who proposes that. Even more, try to get other people to agree. Call your Congressman/woman. Do more than bitch about your belief that it needs change.




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#3 14 years ago

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#4 14 years ago
moofOk, time for some facts: 1. George Washington was not a Christian. John Adams was not a Christian. Thomas Jefferson was not a Christian. This is not a Christian country. The Founding Fathers knew the dangers of a religious government and took pains to prevent it. What do you mean when you say the country is going to turn its back on Christians? As far as I see, I can still say that Jesus is my Saviour. I can still say that I am Christian. I can still go to church. I can still vote as I feel a Christian should vote. I don't feel as if the country has turned its back on me. 2. The Supreme Court is doing its job. The fourth Chief Justice of the United States, John Marshall, established the policy of judicial review in the milestone case of Marbury v. Madison, stating that the Supreme Court could declare any act already passed as unconstitutional. This has been a cornerstone of America. Where would we be without Brown v. Board of Education? McCulloch v. Maryland? Miranda v. Arizona? Tinker v. Des Moines? United States v. Nixon? The Supreme Court has been a great institution of good. 3. Well, the obvious answer to incompetent Supreme Court justices is impeachment. If you want to have the current Supreme Court removed in favor of a strict-constructionalist one, vote for the candidate who proposes that. Even more, try to get other people to agree. Call your Congressman/woman. Do more than bitch about your belief that it needs change.

I totally agree! Very well said moof. pleased.gif




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#5 14 years ago

Also, I would like to state that I hereby declare myself a liberal, rather than my former status as a conservative. Hooray for liberal Californians, right Žâb707?




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#6 14 years ago

Oh god....he joined the dark side.




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#7 14 years ago

I wouldn't pin the countries troubles on the supreme court. I think that the media is a large part of the problem. Everything is so dang political nowadays that it is tough to get a straight story.




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#8 14 years ago

I hate it when people whine that this country is losing is 'origional Christian values' and going to hell in a handbasket, etc, etc... The founding fathers seperated church and state for a reason. Now stop complaining.




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#9 14 years ago
colonel_bobI hate it when people whine that this country is losing is 'origional Christian values' and going to hell in a handbasket, etc, etc... The founding fathers seperated church and state for a reason. Now stop complaining.

I think it is stupid that people are trying to take things like the ten commandments off everything they can. I am a christian and I devote my life to God and that sort of pisses me off. I understand the seperation of church and state, but I think public facilities should have a right to put Christian symbols outside their buildings. I don't see people wetting their pants everytime someone puts muslum or jewish symbols outside buildings.




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#10 14 years ago
ArseholeI think it is stupid that people are trying to take things like the ten commandments off everything they can. I am a christian and I devote my life to God and that sort of pisses me off. I understand the seperation of church and state, but I think public facilities should have a right to put Christian symbols outside their buildings. I don't see people wetting their pants everytime someone puts muslum or jewish symbols outside buildings.

Well, thats the other end of the spectrum. The crazy people (usually atheist) that view every religious reference as an assault on their beliefs. The ten commandments in a courthouse is not going to force anyone to become a Christian. Thats what Jefferson and everyone didn't want, a national religion, like in England, where you were either a member or breaking the law. Edit -- This has become another religion thread, hasn't it? Oops.