America wins over Muslims in Iraq. 32 replies

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Quetron

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#21 11 years ago

Likewise about being so stuck on one post-views. The facts face you in that link, it is not a cig company selling goods for money, is is not propaganda.Go back two years on the news links, but you still wouldn't believe it. I see reports of both good and bad, but the time warp you and the world is in from truth is sickening. You sir, need to stop thinking and start realizing. I would like to know exactly what is the big objection, even you admit Sadam gone is a good thing.




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#22 11 years ago

Quetron, I don't think many people actually understand what the thread is about, myself included. You've just linked to the MNF Iraq website homepage, which you've had linked in your signature for quite some time anyway, without linking us to any particular story, and just said something about winning over Muslims. Now, if you're trying to tell us that the United States of America now has the support of the Muslim world as a whole for invading and occupying Iraq, which is the gist I'm getting from your first post, I'd have to suggest that you'd need some slightly stronger evidence than a highly biased website and a picture of a child smiling (which I was unable to see on the homepage of that site anyway - I presume they've updated the front page since you first saw it), because it's a very outrageous claim. Let's face it, even if the President suddenly changed the US Constitution, declared Islam the national religion of America, and started knocking down churches and replacing them with mosques, the Iranian government would probably still hate America. There's not much chance at a reconciliation there methinks. On the other hand, if you're just suggesting that the American soldiers over there have made friends with some of the locals, I'd believe you. I've seen and heard of British soldiers doing the same during their time there, and they hold them in high regard. But if Al-Qaeda recruitment rates are anything to go by, I think there's a long way to go before either the US or the UK are hailed as 'saviours' by everybody in Iraq, if such a thing can ever happen. A looong way...




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#23 11 years ago

American and UK need to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, the wars there has only fueled the Islamic propaganda machine, making alot of westerners believe the Muslims have and are always innocent victims, alot of normal people are, however its also making what they've been trying to do for 1400 years a little more possible. Its helping, Especially in the UK and Europe, to make the general public even more subdued, the liberals start rooting for them, theres more programs on then ever on Channel 4 and that, which try to justify every ISlamic wrong. While we fight in Iraq, its only making the Muslims look like the underdog, it gets to the left wingers first and students, like everything, out of most of the English people who convert to ISlam its either because their partner is Muslim or they are left wing student, and the victim and underdogness muslims aree potrayed as suffering, draws them into it. The fact is, most idiots in Europe and some in the USA, seem to think that the Muslims only attack and riot because of the post 9/11 wars, this is being used to stop people seeing the bigger picture, it was going to happen sooner or later anyway, yes, post 9/11 has accelerated it by a long shot and increased risk in short term, but in long term, it was going to happen anyway, they were doing attacks against the west before 9/11 and the west kept letting them off over and over again. The hardline Muslims are after one goal, the moderates though not fighters, would like to see Islamic law and as for those wwho dont, their mainly just cultural muslims anyway, who follow out of tradition than faith, europeans will only take action when its too late and More Muslim opinions and rules are around in Europe. We've opened the gates to a Trojan horse! still though, you do not learn from history, you do not think its going to happen, but alot can happen in 200 years.




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#24 11 years ago

YEAH BOI!!!!! Go america!War is bad !why dont these people solve their differences with science?




Quetron

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#25 11 years ago
Mr. Matt;4913530Quetron, I don't think many people actually understand what the thread is about, myself included. You've just linked to the MNF Iraq website homepage, which you've had linked in your signature for quite some time anyway, without linking us to any particular story, and just said something about winning over Muslims. Now, if you're trying to tell us that the United States of America now has the support of the Muslim world as a whole for invading and occupying Iraq, which is the gist I'm getting from your first post, I'd have to suggest that you'd need some slightly stronger evidence than a highly biased website and a picture of a child smiling (which I was unable to see on the homepage of that site anyway - I presume they've updated the front page since you first saw it), because it's a very outrageous claim. Let's face it, even if the President suddenly changed the US Constitution, declared Islam the national religion of America, and started knocking down churches and replacing them with mosques, the Iranian government would probably still hate America. There's not much chance at a reconciliation there methinks. On the other hand, if you're just suggesting that the American soldiers over there have made friends with some of the locals, I'd believe you. I've seen and heard of British soldiers doing the same during their time there, and they hold them in high regard. But if Al-Qaeda recruitment rates are anything to go by, I think there's a long way to go before either the US or the UK are hailed as 'saviours' by everybody in Iraq, if such a thing can ever happen. A looong way...

Well I suppose you are right, but the way I see it is like. Say 10 people are going over a cliff then die, you save 9 of them. The news AND on filefront you would read, person dies from a fossil based fuel car.Also all this anti USA-Bush crap was generated from people who (using example, idealize about global warming, rather than ANY good you have done saving 9 lives instead of 10) Then I post a FACTUAL web site with FACTS and hey just ignore it all, thats what you liberals do. Now the libs won't stop there, oh no, you must be prosecuted for saving lives because of idealism. I dunno but I will just sit back and wait to see how China will "help" we should just ignore North Korea, take our troops out and let the chips fall where they may.Lets see all of EU "help" how about Russia, oh but hell no not USA we are an occupying force ruining the world. Same for calling the election in Britain "Nazi" same shit, different day. blah blah blah.:sleep:




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#26 11 years ago

Afghan was was justified. Iraq war was THOUGHT to be justified.

But I dont for a second credit any of that "war for oil" bullshit. My gas was 4.55 a gallon last year and really hasnt gone down (except for last winter), ever since we went into iraq.




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#27 11 years ago
NiteStryker;4914334 But I dont for a second credit any of that "war for oil" bullshit. My gas was 4.55 a gallon last year and really hasnt gone down (except for last winter), ever since we went into iraq.

I suppose you don't take Peak Oil into account and the potential resource grab of Iraq's oil.




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#28 11 years ago

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#29 11 years ago
Jeffro;4914356I suppose you don't take Peak Oil into account and the potential resource grab of Iraq's oil.

No I take peak gas prices into account and the potential for them to go down but for some reason, not doing so.




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#30 11 years ago
Quetron;4914321 blah blah blah.:sleep:

Your favorite site Multi-National Force - Iraq somehow reminds me

of this: Federal Network - Citizen Rule and this: Federal Network - WAR

Have in mind: The media is from 1997.

Kill those bugging Iraqnoids!