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#1 11 years ago

Well this is one of those rants that unless you experience it yourself, you won't appreciate.

Applying and getting accepted into a decent college is a process where you have to do so much BS, its not even funny. First of all, nobody gives fuck about yourself, so when colleges act like they care, making you write all those BS essays, well guess what, they don't care. The care about two things: 1. Your money 2. You graduating (This only because it affects them too)

Its true in theory that schools give you grants, and financial aid, but really they don't. Its actually the state that gives it to you. They give the school certain funds to distribute. And unless your family is dirt poor, don't count on getting much.

It seems that "community service" jeopardized everything when it comes to getting accepted. 2/3 of the application involves something thats related to community service. I shouldn't have to give/take anything from the community to fricking get accepted, geez. But in America, thats how it is. You got to love it!! The last school I applied to (University of IL in Urbana Chmapaign), I had to write 2 essays about myself. I don't mind writing an educated essay, but writing about myself and how I was involved with community service? Wtf does that have to do with how smart I am, and my ability to graduate? So after you take all the pain completing the application, which half of it is pure BS, you have to wait........and wait..... and wait for the lazy scums to send you a response. (Makes you want to strangle whoever came up with it). All they have to do is read some BS essays (even they know its BS), and look at some damn numbers. It takes them over 3 months to do that, can you believe this?

So because their too lazy to give me a response in time, I have to apply to 3 other schools to make sure I get accepted somewhere. Of course I have to pay fees again, and make sure my ACT gets sent, and call my HS, the other college, pay them too, and make sure everythign gets delivered. Technically, I should get accepted since I meet everything, but since the bureocracy is too high, you never know. Since I'm a transfer student, I'm taken in last based on how many freshman didn't feel like coming. This is BS because I already attended a year at a different college and I should get a priority because of that, or at least be taken on the same level.

In Europe, the system is so much better. Here its all BS, and If I have to write another essay related to community service, I'm gonna strangle somebody!!!

Just my rant.....agree, disagree, questions, comments, etc?

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#2 11 years ago
The care about two things: 1. Your money 2. You graduating (This only because it affects them too)

Cross off number 2. They don't care if you graduate. When you gradute, they loose their income.

In Europe, the system is so much better. Here its all BS, and If I have to write another essay related to community service, I'm gonna strangle somebody!!!

I have a kid from europe in my classes. He says all he has to do is pass his finals next year, and he gets into college. College is about leaning, not community service.

I am jumping though the loops to go to college like you are. I am in some clubs I don't want to be in. I am only in them becuase it looks good on my resume for college.

What is ironic about this whole community service thing is that the smart people, who will make the college look good, stay in their houses. I know some geniuses, but they sit infront of TVs, computers, and desks.

University of IL in Urbana Chmapaign

OMG HAL9000's home:p Unless you watch 2001: A Space Oddsey you won't get what I said.




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#3 11 years ago

What I meant by number #2 is that when people do bad, the school starts to lose its image. If lots of people don't graduate, the school is downgraded. Though they do want you to take lots of classes, some that you don't even need. For example, when I took a test at Loyola (The school I was initially about to go to), They said I needed MTH 100 which was the second lowest math level. The test wasn't actually fair because half the test was calculus which I never took before. So they should have put me in college algebra based on my ACT score, but anyway I didn't go there for other reasons.

I have a kid from europe in my classes. He says all he has to do is pass his finals next year, and he gets into college. College is about leaning, not community service.

I'm assuming his in HS. Well I used to think the same thing, aren't we all?

I am jumping though the loops to go to college like you are. I am in some clubs I don't want to be in. I am only in them becuase it looks good on my resume for college.

Well If you apply as a transfer student, whatever you did in HS doesn't count, because they want to know about your college community service.

What is ironic about this whole community service thing is that the smart people, who will make the college look good, stay in their houses. I know some geniuses, but they sit infront of TVs, computers, and desks.

True, I don't believe that somebody who happened to join a lot of clubs should be given priority over somebody with a higher GPA.

OMG HAL9000's home:p Unless you watch 2001: A Space Oddsey you won't get what I said.

I havent seen the space oddesey, so I'm lost lol.




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#4 11 years ago
Well If you apply as a transfer student, whatever you did in HS doesn't count, because they want to know about your college community service.

I am still in HS so clubs are the equivalent on community service. I have to do a senior project. Oh what fun that is going to be.

True, I don't believe that somebody who happened to join a lot of clubs should be given priority over somebody with a higher GPA.

The nerds will rule over the jocks and cheerleaders. Life makes more sense after school/college is done. You get a promotion based on your job performance, not the fact that you volunteer 10 hours a week.

I havent seen the space oddesey, so I'm lost lol.

Rent it. The first time you are going to be like "What did I just watch?" Then after you watch it over again, you will get it more. I do not know what you would think of it when you are stoned, but that would be good canidate for a movie to watch while stoned.




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#5 11 years ago

There's another way. You can enter a community college and make straight A's for a few semisters and transfer into a decent college. Straight A transfers always get good picks.




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#6 11 years ago

Like Peth I too jumped through all the hoops and stuff to get my college resume in line etc etc...I'm now waiting on my schools rulings in March and April.

I'll agree with you in that MOST of it is BS. ACTs/SATs are worthless now b/c every college I looked at said the same thing: "we're starting this year to not really look at SATs" which could in itself be BS but who knows.

Colleges look at things like community service and out of school activities mainly for the purposes of trying to find people who dont have 3.4-4.0 GPAs...almost everyone applying to more than average good schools have those grades so they need to find something more interesting and different about that given person.

I did a little volunteer work...not that much actually...and I got into all 4 of my rolling admissions schools right off the bat. I also recieved some sort of academic honors award that gives me 8000 a year for one school (and I get maybe a 2.8-3.0 GPA). I've traveled alot outside of the country so I dont know how schools weigh that...they do take interest in it though.

You complain about having to jump through the hoops and doing things that dont seem like yourself yet...that's life. Very few people get to do what they want, say what they want, and act like they want and get their way....most of us normal every day people have to jump through those hoops for the rest of our lives to scratch a living out of this world - b/c thats the cold truth. If you have to get coffee for your boss every morning, agree with all his stupid ideas, and be the perfect worker to get that promotion then thats how it works...the people who sit there and call the boss an asshole under their breathes go nowhere and remain at the same job until they die.

Life is about doing things you dont really want to do but you have to nonetheless.




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#7 11 years ago

Community College solves your problem. Not that I had a hard time getting accepted into CSUs.




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#8 11 years ago

Well I am in a community college now because the college I was going to screw me over, and I missed the time to apply anywhere else.

To get in a community college, all I needed to do is show up a week before school started, show them my ACT scores, and sign up for classes.

But I'm planning to transfer after a year. And when you do that, they still need your HS transcript, and they still ask for all the community BS.

I more than meet the academics to get in that college, but not the community part.

I have a HS gpa of 3.95, a rank of 24 out of 350. And in college, a gpa of 3.22, and 29 credits when I'm done with this semester. ACT of 22 which isn't great, but should get me accepted.

To get in the school you need a college GPA of 3.0.

So technically I should get accepted, but I'm expecting surprises.

I know somebody who was doing pretty bad in school, but he got in because he was in some soccer team that won a lot of games, so based on that he got in.