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Cheese!

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#101 10 years ago

Lol why'd you edit your quote of me? :cort:




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#102 10 years ago

Woops, that was my mistake.

EDIT: Fixed the post.


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Cheese!

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#103 10 years ago

:lookaround: Lol thanks. Anyways back on topic.




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#104 10 years ago

computernerd;5032281I don't have to prove anything. I know it because by faith I accept that God exists, and you also by faith, yes BY FAITH, accept that there is no god and things just happen. You might like to try this site out: Proof That God Exists: welcome if you don't want to, then it doesn't hurt me any, all I ask is that you just give it a try

I agree, and I won't try to force my beliefs on anyone, but I do ask that you take some time to consider the validity of mine. After all I have considered yours. We have the choice to believe what we want to believe.

First off, I do not have FAITH that there is no god, I KNOW that there is no god.

(For the bold word)None.




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#105 10 years ago

That remark about atheists choosing to not believe is remarkably naive. I for one, am always looking for miracles and supernatural acts. I've gone well out of my way with such endeavors for almost 20 years. Spending time with religious people and locations, visiting supposedly haunted homes, institutions, hotels, ect. I've found nothing but reality.

I'd really like for there to be one, believe me. It would make existence a lot easier. With that said, I need a reason to believe. I'm not going to discard the reality of the world around me, in exchange for some self comfort. Personal Intellectual honesty is a bitch, and it conflicts severely with ones ego.

People don't understand that what ties us together, is not presence, or morality, but it's on agreeing what is real and what is not. If you don't have that, you don't have much.




TodtheWraith

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#106 10 years ago

thecheeseman;5032269You can't prove that there isn't a god either. Just asking for a sign isn't a way of proving anything either. There's no scientific evidence that either statements are true.

Personally I think everyone should stick to his/her beliefs and not try to force them on anyone. If someone wants to know what you believe, why sure, tell them.[/QUOTE]

Lots of faiths command you impose your faith on others.

computernerd;5032281I don't have to prove anything. I know it because by faith I accept that God exists, and you also by faith, yes BY FAITH, accept that there is no god and things just happen. You might like to try this site out: Proof That God Exists: welcome if you don't want to, then it doesn't hurt me any, all I ask is that you just give it a try

Interesting site. I went to it. Tried it. It told me I didn't believe in God, led me to an exit button, which then took me to disney.com. I can't help but ask; what the fuck?? [QUOTE=computernerd;5032281]I agree, and I won't try to force my beliefs on anyone, but I do ask that you take some time to consider the validity of mine. After all I have considered yours. We have the choice to believe what we want to believe.

Several people have made a post with this idea. People seem to misunderstand why we're here. I don't mean that in a philosophical way. I mean on these forums. The reason we come here is to argue; to challenge each-others' beliefs.




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#107 10 years ago

Oh God, another battle of Western Rationalism versus Religion! How dare religion exist when Rationalism already does! Everyone should just see how much better Rationalism is than their own beliefs, then there would be no problems in the world.

Rationalism is unhuman; religion is unhuman. Neither fully allow humanity to express themselves: one blocks human feeling, and the other tends to stifle intellectualism.

EDIT: Stop conforming to everybody else's standards and find your own beliefs!!!




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#108 10 years ago

Radiohead'sThomYorke (if that is your real name);5032550Oh God, another battle of Western Rationalism versus Religion! How dare religion exist when Rationalism already does! Everyone should just see how much better Rationalism is than their own beliefs, then there would be no problems in the world.

Rationalism is unhuman; religion is unhuman. Neither fully allow humanity to express themselves: one blocks human feeling, and the other tends to stifle intellectualism.

EDIT: Stop conforming to everybody else's standards and find your own beliefs!!!

If someone were to pull their own belief outta there ass they, would most likely be wrong. I don't know the what the odds are that they'd be right, but I am certain it will contain a 1/ followed by more digits than a human could possibly write within the span of his life-time.

If you mean people should extensively study current known evidence of the history of the world & piece together a religion based on such, it would be Atheism.




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#109 10 years ago
Carbon dating is highly unlikely, due to the age of the specimens. More likely they were dated with Uranium-Lead or Potassium-Argon.

If radiological decay dating is wrong then so is most of physics and chemistry. The creationist who are out their telling people radiological decay dating is wrong are denying nearly all of science. Yet these people use cars, the internet, modern medicine, modern food, and other things that would not be possible without science.

If someone were to pull their own belief outta there ass they, would most likely be wrong. I don't know the what the odds are that they'd be right, but I am certain it will contain a 1/ followed by more digits than a human could possibly write within the span of his life-time.

Pascal's wager is what you are thinking of.




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#110 10 years ago
Pethegreat;5033762Pascal's wager is what you are thinking of.

[INDENT]If you erroneously believe in God, you lose nothing, whereas if you correctly believe in God, you gain everything. But if you correctly disbelieve in God, you gain nothing, whereas if you erroneously disbelieve in God, you lose everything.[/INDENT]

That one? Doesn't really seem to fit into the context. It's entirely possible that belief in the wrong god has very negative consequencies. Maybe the only unforgivable sin is to believe the wrong god, or to believe in a god at all; without knowledge of the conditions for winning or lossing it's not reasonable to make such a wager.