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AlDaja

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#1 11 years ago

This is rich, I couldn't believe what I heard on NPR this afternoon and had to do a search when I got home. I didn't find too much on the main-stream press outlets (yeah, like that's not surprising), but to be fair, apparently this was not meant to be leaked to them or the general public as it would seem, I typically would just blow it off, but I take NPR to be fairly creditable. I also found a hit on the topic on a conservative online newspaper outlet out of Canada on the subject. If the reporting is correct and accurate (as I'm skeptical of most one sided news sources) I think a formal investigation into the executive order should be reviewed by Congress. Not only does this bill as it is worded directly usurp Congress's legislative authority, but directly violates State legislative and constitutional rights. Under US law this could be grounds for impeachment.

Mr. Obama we are a Republic not a f'cking communist regime as much as you'd like it to be. Eat sh't you asshole.:mad:

Anyway, check this out:http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/18890

Sounds like Brownshirt mentality to me.




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#2 11 years ago

Can you find a more reliable source than the "Canadian Free Press"? It looks more like a place for people to rant and scream about things. It's also curious that despite being called the "Canadian Free Press", nearly every article is about the United States. The site seems very unreliable for a straight source of news that isn't motivated by clear bias.

After all, you can dig up plenty of articles that were published by more left leaning sites claiming some similar things about Bush that never were true.

If you heard this on NPR they should have transcripts of their programs.

At the moment I think this sounds a whole lot like the crap you'd get in your email.




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#3 11 years ago

Yeah, like I said not much on it this topic just yet...maybe it will break in a few days, or maybe someone can find more info on it other that what Google is offering up at the moment. I'm hoping to hell it is bullsh't, personally.

EDIT: Found another site that made mention, but not as elaborate as the CFP article: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/01/11/Obama-sets-up-council-of-governors/UPI-10291263272043/

Wiki suggests it is a creditable (small) news source that has been around since 1907.




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#4 11 years ago

Again, I want to see where you heard this on NPR. Are you sure you weren't hearing something about the Board of Governors for the Federal Reserve?

And it is amusing that you throw a word like "communism" in there, I'm just assuming it's a buzzword that has empty meaning behind it.




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#5 11 years ago

Still couldn't find the transcript, but NPR's search engine sucks...anyway a new search a few minutes ago via Google from a few hours ago, gave it to me right from the horses mouth...should have checked the official White House releases first...interesting other than a blurp I heard on the way home, has yet to make it to the 'news' outlets.

Anyway: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-signs-executive-order-establishing-council-governors

EDIT: However, not as 'secret' as CFP would have you believe...otherwise it wouldn't have been on a .gov website.




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#6 11 years ago

Alright so how is this a scheme to implant a communist government? It just seems to be a rethinking of an existing concept of national security communications between the state and national levels.




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#7 11 years ago

I'm not American, so could someone give me an explanation as to how this Bill would affect the existing United States government system and why it means that we're getting a Communist government?




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#8 11 years ago
Mr. Pedantic;5209645I'm not American, so could someone give me an explanation as to how this Bill would affect the existing United States government system and why it means that we're getting a Communist government?

Because quite clearly Obama is an islamofascistcommuninsteurosocialist and this is completely in his scope to destroy our freedoms as Americans.

Quite clearly a cabal that goes to the highest levels of the New World Order, see how he openly TAUNTS the freedom loving people of America by publicly releasing the order?

Seriously, this seems like yet another case of blowing things way, way out of proportion.




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#9 11 years ago
Commissar MercZ;5209638Alright so how is this a scheme to implant a communist government? It just seems to be a rethinking of an existing concept of national security communications between the state and national levels.

My immediate concern would be further expansion of military involvement in domestic security issues. What, is Uncle Sam nervous or anxious about some potential threat from it’s citizens? I don’t like that this bill now gives the presidency the ability to more readily expand martial law without legislative approval. This order expands that ability and takes the safe guards out of place allowing Federal troops to override State powers – that makes me nervous. A move that I don’t find as coincidental given Obama had made a speech earlier last year suggesting that a “national civilian security force” should be implemented should civil unrest threaten Federal agencies…he later reneged and said his statement was taken out of context when the news outlets, blogs, etc. starting turning up the heat on his comment and what was really implied by even stating such a thing. Mr. Obama apparently feels our current law enforcement in this nation is less that adequate toward suppressing the troublemakers. Furthermore, verbiage in this bill gives the president emergency powers that I don’t agree are necessary. Powers that could be enacted in a real or imaginary emergency to suspend national elections and retain power until the ‘crisis’ is contained…that is a wide margin I rather not see played. It reminds me of Stalinist tactics…but, of course, it won’t be used like that right…don’t be an alarmist it’s just ‘in case’. Let the states deal with their own situations and request Federal emergency measures if necessary as current (previous now) procedures dictated. Washington now has the ability to undermine local and state emergency procedures and implement measures at will. What is to stop our federal government from deciding that the voters just don’t know what is best for them and that any perceived unrest that may threaten the sitting administration is grounds to enact emergency powers. This is what tempts this president and future ones from leading our nation further down a path strictly forbidden by our Founders and our Republic…but seeing how it is now law and our lap-dog Senate is too busy counting their dividends from the current Healthcare vote…it will slide and another brick is knocked out of the foundation of this nation. Feel free to suggest otherwise, this executive order won’t change the potential for what our president now has the power to enact should he wish too, where before he could not.

Seriously, this seems like yet another case of blowing things way, way out of proportion

Yeah, I figured as much...The world said the same thing when the fascists began to rise to power in the 1930's.




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#10 11 years ago
Commissar MercZ;5209638Alright so how is this a scheme to implant a communist government? It just seems to be a rethinking of an existing concept of national security communications between the state and national levels.

Jesus fucking Christ man, it isn't that hard to figure out...

When a Democrat is in office, everyone goes on about communism this, socialism that.

When a Republican is in office, everyone goes on about Nazism this, fascism that.

It's no different.