An Inconvenient Truth [Global Warming] 96 replies

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#1 11 years ago

Has anyone seen An Inconvenient Truth yet? It's an attack on the rather dangerous myth that global warming is not dangerous, that Co2 is fluffy and harmless, and that the more-and-more frequent storms aren't caused by global warming, but by Santa Claus when he's high on cotton candy (or whatever the current excuse is from the SUV-drivers these days:o).

The problem with global warming, and the resulting rising sea levels and natural disasters, isn't Co2-emissions themselves - it's the ignorance and stubbornness of certain "pseudo-sceptics" (thanks for the word, Carl!) who for political reasons (how many neo-cons ignore Al Gore out of principle because he ran against Bush?), economical reasons (I'm tempted to bring up the power of the Co2-spewing indutstries of the States, but I'll let it lie), or narrow-minded reasons refuse to look at the available evidence. As one review remarked, "[COLOR=Sienna]Although it's the most important film of the year, it will still be a hard sell to hard-headed truth-deniers.[/COLOR]" I hope that in the age of 9/11 conspiracy theories, evolution-denial, and general ignorance, this film will awaken some people so that things will actually get done. Let's hope more people not already busy (visitation service here) will get off of their butts thanks to it. The rest of us, I suppose, should start by taking shorter showers [/self-critisism:rolleyes:].[INDENT][COLOR=DarkGreen]Discuss.[/COLOR] [/INDENT][COLOR=Sienna]Sources in support:[/COLOR]

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  • AMS Council (2003). Climate Change Research: Issues for the Atmospheric and Related Sciences. Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, 84, 508-515.
  • American Geophysical Union (2003). Human Impacts on Climate. Found at http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/policy/positions/climate_change.shtml
  • National Academy of Sciences Committee on the Science of Climate Change, (2001). Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions . National Academy Press, Washington, DC.
  • Oreskes, Naomi (2004). The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change. Science, 306 (5702), 1686.

[COLOR=RoyalBlue]*[/COLOR]Thanks to Carl Feagans for the sources post-asterisk.




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#2 11 years ago

I love people who claim that Al Gore is just using the film as propaganda when they themselves have never actually seen it. I personally don't know if it is valid because I haven't seen it...




WarHawk109

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#3 11 years ago

I don't even trust my weatherman to predict tomorrow's weather, why should I trust Gore to predict the weather years in the future?




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#4 11 years ago

I havn't been saying it doesn't exsists, just that we don't have to radically change our lifestyle to slow or stop it. Just doing simple things like using more efficent light bulbs and unplugging electric devices you arn't using could save a few gigatons(if done by everyone of course). For instance, even if your T.V. is turned off it still uses a crap load of power, and only unplugging it cuts that power.




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#5 11 years ago
WarHawk109;3269217I don't even trust my weatherman to predict tomorrow's weather, why should I trust Gore to predict the weather years in the future?

It's far easier to predict global trends 5 or 10 years from now than to predict the exact weather tomorrow. See the difference in precision here? You're comparing apples and oranges.




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#6 11 years ago

and they've been wrong in predicting trends before, remember the talks about another iceage 20 years ago?

It's all a bunch of hype IMO




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#7 11 years ago

Take a meteorology class first, then comment on weather.




WarHawk109

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#8 11 years ago

an apeal to authority is a logical fallacy.




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#9 11 years ago
WarHawk109;3269243an apeal to authority is a logical fallacy.

Bad analogy is also a logical fallacy ;)




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#10 11 years ago

it's not a bad analogy, weathermen are notorious for being wrong, whether it's tomorrow's weather, next week's weather, or weather a year from now. i am really quite fascinated with why so many would put so much trust in weathermen...and call them whatever you want, "climate scientists" or whatever, but that is essentially what they are, they are in the business of predicting weather.

You want to fight global warming? Do it on YOUR dime! Not mine! Leave me alone!