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AlDaja

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#31 12 years ago
Dobrze Kurwa;3566668The guy uses green, renewable energy. Let me ask you, how much wind is in the world? Or what about solar energy? It is infinite. Therefore, why can he not use as much of it as he wants? How is he being a hypocrite, he leaves less of a CO2 mark on our planet than most people do. He is more of an environmentalist than you. Are you using green energy? Thought so. It cost thousands more.

Friend – your loyal – and that’s ok, but don’t try and get high and mighty with me or turn this into a one sided political issue as your stance/tone suggests. Your missing the entire scope of what is going on with Mr. Gore. No ones is disputing the fact that some good is coming out of what he is doing – and to be honest more people should, and many are they just don’t go around saying home much better they are about it which he does often and not just on the environment. The issue here is how he is going about doing it and how he preaches to the “little people”. Its like the mother who knows her son is a murder, but loves him just the same and will never admit his sins. That’s fine, but don’t try and say your son is an angel. The same analogy is being drawn with Mr. Gore hence; his attitude toward the world is a hypocritical despite what he professes because he is a “user” like everyone else. Further, your right on one account I am not an environmentalist – I’m a conservationalist, big difference. Conservationalists are progressive individuals who actually do something to help the environment and their communities by working with companies and local leaders to educate and promote changes locally and globally, as opposed to reminding everyone on a daily bases that they are evil, grubby little creatures that would do Earth a big favor by taking themselves out. Also – Jack, I do leave less CO2 then he does. I don’t fly jets all over, I don’t own tenements that are rundown and leaching harmful chemicals into the environment, drive all the vehicles he does, etc. etc.. And yes I do use green energy as it an optional source of energy, because it is offered as an optional resource in my part of the state is it in yours? The Point: He can do better and I’m glad that he is attempting to reduce – we all should, but don’t try to tell us all that your shit don’t stink – just as your attempting to project on me by your statement.




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#32 12 years ago

mods - can you make a correction...didn't catch a typo in the following sentence and it is to late to edit: "...and many are they just don't go around saying [COLOR=red]home[/COLOR] much better..." It should be "how" much better. Thanks and you can delete this double posting.




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#33 12 years ago

Apparently Al Gore is carbon neutral, he makes up for all emissions his house makes by counter-effect, could be from planting trees or......well I guess planting trees is all you can do, (al gore's words not mine) The same goe's for the Big Day Out music festival, they supposedly release 2,000 tonnes of emissions into the atmosphere, to put that into perspective, a normal family car releases about 4 tonnes a year. But they also plant trees for every festival to make the effect neutral.




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#34 12 years ago

Which is a BS scheme btw.




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#35 12 years ago

I'd expect such power usage from anyone with an estate, and while I don't believe in purposeless excess, he does atleast attempt to use cleaner power sources with his money, whether or not he profits is irreleveant to me.

As towards living sufficiently vesus comfortably, I believe in support for the poor, but not at the withdrawl of everyone, which includes the slightly less poor than others (IE those who work manual labor jobs). In a way, it's societies fault, but also in a way it's the homelesses fault, albeit almost being a homeless person myself for a time, I understand that circumstances can leave you in the shitter with no real choices. However, one should be able to reap the rewards of their work, so if one does earn money, one should beable to spend it, and if wanted, on themselves. People living with space between them and others keeps many sane today and people not used to living in such conditions may very well go insane, and by that I don't mean just be pissed, I mean literaly insane, crazy, out of touch with reality, possibly drive people to paranoid schizophrenia. It works for some, but not for others (see American living space versus Japanese, if the average american city was as cramped as a Japanese city, people would go completely mad). Not only that, but people have a right to their property, and just because it's beyond the norm, doesn't mean it should be taken from them. Nor should inheritance be withdrawn, if a person truly is as wasteful as others claim, then such money will be spread around in due time. The econemy naturaly spreads money, albeit not fairly, but it does spread it. Money spent doesn't vanish, it is payed to someone, who then spends it on something else, the owner or producer of which then gets that money and spends it on something else. In short, money flows.

I can see there being some sort of government help for the homeless, but reducing everyone to living in small apartments is rediculous, and immoral.




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#36 12 years ago

AlDaja;3566751Friend – your loyal – and that’s ok, but don’t try and get high and mighty with me or turn this into a one sided political issue as your stance/tone suggests. Your missing the entire scope of what is going on with Mr. Gore. No ones is disputing the fact that some good is coming out of what he is doing – and to be honest more people should, and many are they just don’t go around saying home much better they are about it which he does often and not just on the environment. The issue here is how he is going about doing it and how he preaches to the “little people”. Its like the mother who knows her son is a murder, but loves him just the same and will never admit his sins. That’s fine, but don’t try and say your son is an angel. The same analogy is being drawn with Mr. Gore hence; his attitude toward the world is a hypocritical despite what he professes because he is a “user” like everyone else.

Further, your right on one account I am not an environmentalist – I’m a conservationalist, big difference. Conservationalists are progressive individuals who actually do something to help the environment and their communities by working with companies and local leaders to educate and promote changes locally and globally, as opposed to reminding everyone on a daily bases that they are evil, grubby little creatures that would do Earth a big favor by taking themselves out. Also – Jack, I do leave less CO2 then he does. I don’t fly jets all over, I don’t own tenements that are rundown and leaching harmful chemicals into the environment, drive all the vehicles he does, etc. etc.. And yes I do use green energy as it an optional source of energy, because it is offered as an optional resource in my part of the state is it in yours? The Point: He can do better and I’m glad that he is attempting to reduce – we all should, but don’t try to tell us all that your shit don’t stink – just as your attempting to project on me by your statement.

I'm not loyal, I don't like Al Gore. However, I want everyone to get the facts straight.

Plus, he operates and owns his own business through his house. Of course he would use much more energy than other people.




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#37 12 years ago

Al Gore isn't some green god. After all, which VP went to Kyoto in 2000 to try to torpedo a particular environmental treaty?

In his travels, he has mitigated his carbon emissions. Which is good. However, he still gets around in his private jet or limo. Which is stupid.

Buying carbon credits has the potential to be very scammy. It's best to avoid it, and instead make the changes that will reduce your own impact.




AlDaja

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#38 12 years ago
Dobrze Kurwa;3567856I'm not loyal, I don't like Al Gore. However, I want everyone to get the facts straight. Plus, he operates and owns his own business through his house. Of course he would use much more energy than other people.

Well, good - I'm glad I made the point clear, now you know.