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#1 6 years ago

I think this thing needs its own thread. I know there's an older one, but I don't want to resurrect it.

So, SOPA and PIPA are down for now, but now another, older, and more violent monster is taking its place. The sad news: the US and many other countries have already signed this. The EU is close to adopting it as well. The bad news: it's close to passing and has a much better chance of passing than SOPA and PIPA will ever have.

Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Polish people are already protesting ACTA with the Polish govt ignoring the protests and ready to sign ACTA.

Poles Protest ACTA Online and on the Streets - ABC News




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#2 6 years ago

Yes, ACTA is a bad thing- I'm surprised really with all the time it's been making the rounds in the world, it hasn't gotten as much attention. I suppose since it's been able to portray itself only against piracy and not with some of the controversial bits concerning internet in SOPA/PIPA. The kind of things being proposed to help combat piracy essentially amount to a standardization and expansion of existing copyright protection laws to many nations- which the various media firms of many countries are demanding. Some of the provisions to combat piracy such as checking media at airport security is rather intrusive.

The developments in Poland are promising- they'd be the most significant presence on the streets against ACTA- which has before then mostly been unknown to people outside of avid internet users. They aren't large in numbers though. I don't think they'll be enough to convince people anything- PM Tusk pretty much said something to the effect the government won't bow to 'brutal blackmail', referring to the demands of the protestors, and some fringe extremist groups have already vowed to 'counter-protest'- for what exactly, I don't know.

Seems from what I'm reading that like in other states the proposal has support from organizations representing artists and such, saying that piracy costs them and the government and needs to be combated.




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#3 6 years ago

Honestly, I'm beyond sick of the MPAA and RIAA and such (and the ESA to an extent).

There is another anti-ACTA protest being planned called Black March. It basically calls for people to not buy any electronic media (physical and digital) during the month of March. This movement will be harder to pull off than the January internet blackout day because, face it, people are addicted to electronic media in one way or another.




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#4 6 years ago

Bad news today: both Poland and the UK have signed ACTA.

UK signs ACTA as activists urge resistance | Networking | ZDNet UK

Poland signs ACTA treaty - Warsaw Business Journal - Online Portal - wbj.pl

Now the treaty heads to the EU parliament for a vote there later this year.




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#5 6 years ago

I couldn't see the Polish government deciding to acknowledge the street protesters- they can write them off as misinformed or idealistic, and say that there is real economic interests behind it that makes it paramount to their vulnerable economy. Same mentality with any anti-piracy measures.

It was good to see people come out onto the streets though- first to that scale AFAIK, it'll at least help increase visibility and knowledge. But it's coming along too far to destroy at this stage- most disturbing really is that it's been planned more or less outside the usual channels until it gets to the stage to sign it- since it is a foreign agreement rather than a domestic bill.

Guess one would need to see how people across Europe decide to protest this, if at all. Again though since this is less 'direct' than what we saw with SOPA/PIPA it'll be difficult to build a large following against it in the same manner the anti-SOPA movement came together in this past few weeks. More over, I don't think there is much opposition to it from the internet groups (google, wikipedia, etc) like there was with SOPA/ PIPA.




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#6 6 years ago

I forgot to post this when it happened, but one positive development here was regarding the treaty's European Parliament rapporteur (responsible for reporting and making summaries, more prominent during early stages) resigning following the Poland protests. While he himself can't do much, the rapporteur Kader Arif released a statement which I think touches on many of the key problems with the treaty, such as how it has been written outside of normal channels for legislation. He takes a potshot at the rival parties in the European Parliament, but it still has some valid points.

ACTA : I will not take part in this masquerade

The European Commission signed today, in the name of the European Union, the anti-counterfeiting trade agreement, ACTA.

I condemn the whole process which led to the signature of this agreement : no consultation of the civil society, lack of transparency since the beginning of negotiations, repeated delays of the signature of the text without any explanation given, reject of Parliament's recommendations as given in several resolutions of our assembly.

As rapporteur on this text, I also experienced never-before-seen maneuvers from the right wing of this Parliament to impose a rushed calendar before public opinion could be alerted, thus depriving the Parliament of its right to expression and of the tools at its disposal to convey citizens' legitimate demands.

Still, everyone knows that there are problematic aspects in the ACTA agreement, whether it on its impact on civil liberties, the responsibility put upon internet providers, the consequences on the production of generic medicines or the poor protection of geographical indicators.

This agreement can have major consequences on citizen's lives, however everything is made to prevent the European Parliament from having its say in this matter. That is why today, as I release this report for which I was in charge, I want to send a strong signal and alert the public opinion about this unacceptable situation. I will not take part in this masquerade.”

The draft of ACTA, which is probably the final form in its main functions, can be viewed here. ACTA's backers have also begun a media campaign to dispel 'misinformation' regarding the intents of ACTA and forming a site for that purpose.




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#7 6 years ago

I'm well behind on news of this, but the chances of ACTA being ratified in the EU have dropped to slim. Poland will now not ratify it. You also had Slovenia's ambassador apologizing to her country for signing it.

Slovenian ambassador apologizes for signing ACTA, Poland halts ratification | TechPresident

Furthermore, a global protest is set to hit on the 11th of February.

ACTA global protests set for February 11th | Death and Taxes

BBC News - Acta: Europe braced for protests over anti-piracy treaty




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#8 6 years ago

There were some protests in Sweden too on February 4th against the bill. This is a video of some of them in Sergels torg (in the center of Stockholm). They got some nice steam going, at least it put attention on it from people. For the most part it could have gone by unnoticed considering the other big issues going on, such as the Eurozone problems and the winter blast.




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#9 6 years ago

I should mention that there is yet another controversial trade agreement in the works that's being drafted in secret: the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Yet again, Hollywood is pushing for stricter copyright enforcement in other countries.

#OccupyHollywood. Please. The RIAA and MPAA need to go now. Most everyone under them needs to go as well.




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Commissar MercZ;5604600Yes, ACTA is a bad thing- I'm surprised really with all the time it's been making the rounds in the world, it hasn't gotten as much attention. I suppose since it's been able to portray itself only against piracy and not with some of the controversial bits concerning internet in SOPA/PIPA. The kind of things being proposed to help combat piracy essentially amount to a standardization and expansion of existing copyright protection laws to many nations- which the various media firms of many countries are demanding. Some of the provisions to combat piracy such as checking media at airport security is rather intrusive.

The developments in Poland are promising- they'd be the most significant presence on the streets against ACTA- which has before then mostly been unknown to people outside of avid internet users. They aren't large in numbers though. I don't think they'll be enough to convince people anything- PM Tusk pretty much said something to the effect the government won't bow to 'brutal blackmail', referring to the demands of the protestors, and some fringe extremist groups have already vowed to 'counter-protest'- for what exactly, I don't know.

Seems from what I'm reading that like in other states the proposal has support from organizations representing artists and such, saying that piracy costs them and the government and needs to be combated.

Eh?

ACTA has nothing to do with piracy. The hint is in the name Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. The purpose being obvious from the name; to impede certain well known far east countries producing counterfeit goods and selling them to the west. The majority of the things people are protesting against were either removed from the final version of the treaty or weren't in there to start with.

As Anonymous protests, Internet drowns in inaccurate anti-ACTA arguments

The Register contacted entertainment industry lawyers and asked what they hoped to get from ACTA and they said they expected to get. They said they expected to get "Nothing. The trademark and counterfeiting people really need it. There's nothing in it for us, or for any copyright holders"




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