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#1 9 years ago

Arabic flashcards land student in U.S. detention | Reuters

Arabic flashcards land student in U.S. detention Jon Hurdle PHILADELPHIA Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:02pm EST

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Federal agents detained and interrogated a U.S. college student at the Philadelphia airport simply because we was carrying a set of English-Arabic flashcards, a lawsuit alleged on Wednesday.

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The American Civil Liberties Union said it filed the suit on behalf Nicholas George, 22, a language student at Pomona College in California who was held at Philadelphia International Airport for nearly five hours in August 2009.

George, a U.S. citizen from the Philadelphia suburb of Wyncote, was on his way back to college when airport security officers found him carrying the flashcards, each of which had an English word on one side and its Arabic equivalent on the other, the ACLU said.

The U.S. Transportation Security Administration questioned him, and a TSA supervisor asked him how he felt about the September 11 attacks, whether he knew "who did 9/11," and whether he knew what language Osama bin Laden spoke, the ACLU said.

He was handcuffed and left in a locked cell for two hours before being "abusively" interrogated by two FBI agents, but was never told why he was being detained, the ACLU said.

The lawsuit, filed in U.S. district court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, charges that officers from the TSA, FBI and Philadelphia police violated George's constitutional rights of free speech and to be free from unreasonable seizure.

"As someone who travels by plane, I want TSA agents to do their job to keep flights safe," George said in a statement. "But I don't understand how locking me up and harassing me just because I was carrying the flashcards made anybody safer."

Neither the federal agencies nor the Philadelphia police could be reached for comment.

Lovely how the hyper-paranoia has nested here (permanently) in this fine, fine nation; having cuntwad security personal with IQs of 60 fumbling around my bag, trying to find a non-existent bomb. Keep at it you upstanding, productive members of society! One day, you WILL find the cheese at the end of the tunnel. I guarantee you. Keep lookin' fer terrorists and dem evil sand folk! :rolleyes:




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The US officials and CEO's are hopelessly racist. I remember when John Mccain said "Obama's not an arab, he's a loving family man". I think that speaks for itself, and its simply revolting.

I'm going to make a shirt with all the revolutionary 'terrorist' organizations I support (IRA, PKK [kurdish worker's party, currently fighting for political independence from Turkish oppression], etc.) and if I get in trouble for it, I'll make a shirt with a list of all the people the good old USA has killed or helped kill.




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More supporting evidence of my "This generation is retarded" statement, except you have security that is taking terrorist prevention way too far (I'm trying to remember the exact word to describe the (over something). It's basically another word for these people being anal anti-terrorist security measures).

Anyway, if the terrorist are making us that afraid about others being terrorists, then the true terrorists are winning.




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#4 9 years ago

Might be more to this story than the article posted.

I've done the exact same thing and never got a second glance. We used flash cards to learn basic phrases in Arabic before my current deployment, and my previous one in 2006.




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#5 9 years ago
Killer Kyle;5238294More supporting evidence of my "This generation is retarded" statement, except you have security that is taking terrorist prevention way too far (I'm trying to remember the exact word to describe the (over something). It's basically another word for these people being anal anti-terrorist security measures). Anyway, if the terrorist are making us that afraid about others being terrorists, then the true terrorists are winning.

It's not so much this generation but the previous generation losing their shit over pointless bullshit.


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#6 9 years ago

EO Violation;5238353Might be more to this story than the article posted.

I've done the exact same thing and never got a second glance. We used flash cards to learn basic phrases in Arabic before my current deployment, and my previous one in 2006.

The "more to the story" might simply be who you happened to run into while going through the airport. People are individuals, they can function on a sort of collective level but they are always going to make decisions for themselves. I'm sure many other people have also brought Arabic flash cards through airports, especially while traveling to the Middle-East for any kind of business. This guy just finally ran into the appropriate set of assholes to get him landed in a locked room.




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Jeffro;5238138Arabic flashcards land student in U.S. detention | Reuters

Lovely how the hyper-paranoia has nested here (permanently) in this fine, fine nation; having cuntwad security personal with IQs of 60 fumbling around my bag, trying to find a non-existent bomb. Keep at it you upstanding, productive members of society! One day, you WILL find the cheese at the end of the tunnel. I guarantee you. Keep lookin' fer terrorists and dem evil sand folk! :rolleyes:

I'd hope that there is more to this story, or else the security was outright retarded and so were any other officials involded. That there is one dumb guard is bad enough but you have loons everywhere... but you'd expect a collegue or other people involved to speak up and handle this properly.

I wonder what the guard would have done if this guy started praying in a foreign language... "OMG he's gonna kill us *draws gun* BAM BAM BAM". :cort:

if I where the guy with the flashcards I probably would think the official was making a bad joke and not think much of it. When realizing the guy was serious I'd explain to him that he is overreacting and protest (call for a superior). When detained I'd think I would keep my response to "Those are flashcards...bloody flashcards! Ugh! Now let me go.." and pretty much stop cooperating with those nutjobs.




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Admiral Donutz;5238621I'd hope that there is more to this story, or else the security was outright retarded and so were any other officials involded. That there is one dumb guard is bad enough but you have loons everywhere... but you'd expect a collegue or other people involved to speak up and handle this properly. I wonder what the guard would have done if this guy started praying in a foreign language... "OMG he's gonna kill us *draws gun* BAM BAM BAM". :cort: if I where the guy with the flashcards I probably would think the official was making a bad joke and not think much of it. When realizing the guy was serious I'd explain to him that he is overreacting and protest (call for a superior). When detained I'd think I would keep my response to "Those are flashcards...bloody flashcards! Ugh! Now let me go.." and pretty much stop cooperating with those nutjobs.

I think you're forgetting about the part where they "abusively interrogated", AKA tortured, the guy.


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EO Violation;5238353Might be more to this story than the article posted.

I've done the exact same thing and never got a second glance. We used flash cards to learn basic phrases in Arabic before my current deployment, and my previous one in 2006.

You've looked like a soldier though, right? Keep in mind filthy dirty hippie college students aren't necessarily presenting the same image.

I personally haven't had issues with my Arabic textbooks, but I think my normal lack of facial hair makes me look more like someone who'd be learning it for the benefit of national security, not to harm the country. Haven't tried it with hair this long, though.

I do like that "do you know what language Osama bin Laden spoke" bit. Do you know what language Timothy McVeigh spoke? How about the language Fidel Castro spoke, he's a good representation of everyone who speaks his language, right?




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Crazy Wolf;5238724You've looked like a soldier though, right? Keep in mind filthy dirty hippie college students aren't necessarily presenting the same image.

I personally haven't had issues with my Arabic textbooks, but I think my normal lack of facial hair makes me look more like someone who'd be learning it for the benefit of national security, not to harm the country. Haven't tried it with hair this long, though.

I do like that "do you know what language Osama bin Laden spoke" bit. Do you know what language Timothy McVeigh spoke? How about the language Fidel Castro spoke, he's a good representation of everyone who speaks his language, right?

Shorts and a t-shirt. Maybe the haircut?

Dragonelf, seriously? Yeah, they took him out back and attached a car battery to his balls... Whatever man.