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Medhiv

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#81 14 years ago

exremes are on both sides - although considering the question, i'd say YES :D




HighCalibreWeapon

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#82 14 years ago
Relander;3704802Well it can be said that the Republicans largely prefer those who are already doing good, for example Bush's tax cuts for the rich and subsidies for oil industry.

why should people who work harder and build themselves business empires have to pay more than some lazy dreg?

That's because they realize that people are different and they are treated differently in the society, thus the sets of rights are there to improve equality between citizens.

I dont think so, its just an excuse, people only need to be treated diffrent as they are trained a mindset to have, the media (largely liberal) plays a big part in it.

Though it's not like the anti-Americanism & terrorism would decrease by this "Iron fist" policy, on the contrary and it has significant consequences on US security, economy and politics as well.

i think there should be little hearing for people who dont really actually care about the nation they are within.




BladeV2

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#83 14 years ago
why should people who work harder and build themselves business empires have to pay more than some lazy dreg?

Its not even that the rich are taxed equally. They're literally taxed less, even though they have more money. Meanwhile, we've got people starving and living in poverty. What would a millionaire do with $500,000 that couldn't be better spent buying food and providing shelter for the less fortunate.

I dont think so, its just an excuse, people only need to be treated diffrent as they are trained a mindset to have, the media (largely liberal) plays a big part in it.

Ah, the lies swarming around the American Dream. Its near impossible for a person born into a poor lower-class family in Harlem to ever actually progress and climb up the social ladder. They don't have the economic and educational opportunities the Elites have.

i think there should be little hearing for people who dont really actually care about the nation they are within.

1. That's nationalistic. The government isn't always right. That's historically proven. 2. We're not "anti-American." We have a different set of beliefs about what is right, as do the terrorists. 3. Not responsive to Relander's argument about how such a policy has NO positive effect. That means there's only room to eliminate the civil liberties and democratic values this country was based on.

while Republicans are heavy handed on those who hate America and rightfully so, such moaning anti-americans should be dealt with an Iron fist, while patriots and those who love the nation rewarded!

Reminds me of Mussolini and Hitler.




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#84 14 years ago

i think that for America, Republican is the only way to go

Liberals and democrats seem to be more about putting people into sub groups and giving diffrent sets of rights to each of these groups

while Republicans are heavy handed on those who hate America and rightfully so, such moaning anti-americans should be dealt with an Iron fist, while patriots and those who love the nation rewarded!

Saying that Republican is "the only way to go" seems very single-minded for a free nation. Same thing that those who hate America should be dealt with an "Iron Fist" seems like a totalitarian policy. The country should be ran on a myriad of values and perspectives other wise this would no longer be "the land of the free". Looking at only one side of the argument obscures what may be most important.

Where did you get the idea that liberals/democrats assign different rights to each social class?

are you trying to imply some kind of "elite republican ruling class"

90% of the Nation's wealth is held be the top 10% of the population. Can you guess the majority class among that top 10%?

I would suggest listening to the song "BYOB" and looking up the lyrics and thinking about what they mean.




ItZ ERIC

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#85 14 years ago
BladeV2;3706393Its not even that the rich are taxed equally. They're literally taxed less, even though they have more money. Meanwhile, we've got people starving and living in poverty. What would a millionaire do with $500,000 that couldn't be better spent buying food and providing shelter for the less fortunate.

How do you get that. Income tax is a PROGRESSIVE tax... meaning that the higher income you are the higher tax bracket you are. A high income person actually is paying a higher percentage of their income than a low income person.

And not to get off-topic. The only sides that people see from both sides are the extremists. The Media likes to only show both of the extremes... not the moderates that most of us are.




themanclaw

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#86 14 years ago

Well, it actually seems like the majority of Americans don't care about politics all that much which is far worse than having and extreme belief. Ignorance is the nation's worst enemy.




ItZ ERIC

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#87 14 years ago
themanclaw;3706553Well, it actually seems like the majority of Americans don't care about politics all that much which is far worse than having and extreme belief. Ignorance is the nation's worst enemy.

Sadly this is so, as seen by the voter turnout each year. Personally I don't think you have the right to whine and ***** about your circumstances if you do nothing to fix it (i.e. VOTE)




Relander

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#88 14 years ago
HighCalibreWeaponwhy should people who work harder and build themselves business empires have to pay more than some lazy dreg?[/quote] Because it's humane and increases social justice, equality, stability in the society and chances of all people to have a good, even succesful life through receiving public services paid by tax money while reducing confrontration between different groups of people, crime and social problems. Besides putting all low-income people on "lazy dreg" basket isn't sincere nor truthful, people & conditions are different.
I dont think so, its just an excuse, people only need to be treated diffrent as they are trained a mindset to have, the media (largely liberal) plays a big part in it.
The truth however is that no matter the ideals of "American dream", the different kind of people are treated differently due to their race, religion, gender or sexual preference. Guess which one gets work in most cases when there's applicant A who's black and applicant B who's white, both equally competent & able to get the job done? I dare to say that the latter one gets the job in 2/3 of cases if not 3/4 or more.
i think there should be little hearing for people who dont really actually care about the nation they are within.
BladeV2 said it all already: the government is not always right nor that if you criticize the government about the conduct of war that you would be "anti-American": this is just typical false rhetorics of pro-conservatives just like the liberals saying that the conservatives want war or are racist. Patriotism is a very slippery slope which contributed in a great deal on the outbreak of the First World War and the rise of Hitler and Mussolini. It just happens that patriotism in the USA haven't been abused as drasticly (yet). [quote=ItZ ERIC]Sadly this is so, as seen by the voter turnout each year. Personally I don't think you have the right to whine and ***** about your circumstances if you do nothing to fix it (i.e. VOTE)

Indeed, I totally agree with you there. However I must say that the corrupt American politics & election system in general greatly discourages people's interest on common issues & willingness to care about it, this is the main problem here. The election system would need total reform but it's highly unlikely that this would happen in the near future, that means 10-20 years if even after that.




Medhiv

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#89 14 years ago
Relander;3666887So the liberals in the USA in general aren't advocating for an idea about USSR style socialism, seems that you wanted to put all liberals into the same basket when looking your earlier post. It's like talking about the conservative mentality and then saying that the conservatives have moved to a near of Pinochet style of right-wing mentality.

yeah but that's what we all are doing here by "discussing" about liberals/radicals, democrats/republicans, black/white - people (or the mob - which is ALL of us here on this thread) are usually just plain stupid and need contrast as it seems that most can't comprehend any of these themes without having to choose over one of the sides -- makes me crack up usually i don't restrict myself to any of these, republican/democratic - i don't give a fuck as long as the state's running nice, besides as always both sides have big-time jerks on it - would be real nice if one side were to be the definite looser/bad side ... we wouldn't have anything to talk about :rolleyes: =p




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#90 14 years ago

The voting system is a farce.