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#1 13 years ago

Many say war is a terrible thing, ravaging the world every day like a constant and unwavering plague. It destroys families lives, and hurts the economy. That's if you lose the war. WWI US- Roaring Twenties: Germany Thrown into an depression along with Russia WWII US-Post War Boom: Germany is thrown into another depression. Maybe this is why the word powers fail to asess the current situation that is going on in the Middle East. The US has assesed the situation, but as you can see nothing is happening. In Iraq, Saddam was captured and the soldiers loyal to him are resenting the democracy we are trying to establish. With the Afgani war, it's a wild goose chase, Osama could be alive or dead and we would have not a single clue, letting Al-Qaida proceed with their plans, as the world saw with The british bombing. Amerca has never really lost a war, building up our ego, and each time we do go to war, our economy is built up and it soars. So you start to wonder why we're so "war-happy", and why the the world powers don't asses this situation correctly, we have very informed top knotch staff in our government, so is this about the war now or is it about the econmy? And if it is, was it always? Just taking out Osama won't bring Al-Qaida as we've seen in Saddam, bringing down most of or all of the organization may do the trick. It's as simple a a bomb why not do it?




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#2 13 years ago

Every 20 years there is a schirmish of some sort. Gulf 'war', Korean 'war', Vietnam 'war', etc etc. Bushy said before he was elected he would "fight oppression and free the oppressed" no one seemed to care at the moment, but now here he is, he's got his wish come true. war. War is when the draft is enacted, not when we ship out 3/4 of our reserves. that's not war. it's easier to call it a war, more people listen and watch tv then. my personal belief is "don't worry about things you can't control." I've been trying real hard. But I'm a real opinionated guy. I wish we'd just pull out. Right after 911 [funny, you call 911 for help, but now it was used for 'terror.' I wonder if the 'terrorists' knew what we called 911...] Condellezza Rice made a statement at a press briefing, "We thought it was a routine highjacking..." I saw that clip once and only once. After that I never saw it again. That shows prior knowledge, but we didn't know it was a plane en route to crash into a building. 80% of all highjackings are successful. ie., commandeer the plane, have control of it. You know that airport security isn't any better, just army jarheads with m16s and flakjackets and a lot more strip-searches. I went flying a little while ago and when i got back i had purchased a metal coin from a giftshop. i had it in my bag and it set off the metal detectors. 4 big ass soliders came over to me. i saw they had their guns on safe, but shit, I was scared. that's the idea. scare people into not doing anything. show the hardware, show the mass numbers of law enforcement personnel, but you're not stopping shit. if someone/people are really determined, there's no way to stop them. everyone knows that.




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#3 13 years ago

While i agree with your statement we can pull all the strings in law enforcement and still not stop them, but pulling out of the middle east? What would that do, well lets see, insult 250,000 soilders is what it would do. Their initial response will be,"So all my comrads died in vain and we are not finishing the job?" Do you really wanna piss off 250K mena dn women that carry assault rifles and fly F-16's?...lol




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#4 13 years ago

Username66Amerca has never really lost a war, building up our ego, and each time we do go to war[/QUOTE] you consider vietnam a tie?

[QUOTE=cchalkley]Do you really wanna piss off 250K mena dn women that carry assault rifles and fly F-16's?...lol

that'a a pretty lame arguement for continuing a doomed war. better come clean and admit that it was a mistake and then work it out from there.




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#5 13 years ago
'Dreadnought[DK']you consider vietnam a tie?

vietman was not a war, congress never declared a war. We did not win loose or tie since the fighting never ended.

that'a a pretty lame arguement for continuing a doomed war. better come clean and admit that it was a mistake and then work it out from there.

how is it a "doomed war"? We freed the iraqi people from a murderous tryant who killed hundreds of thousands. Dread you need to back up your statment that it was a "doomed war" with sources.




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#6 13 years ago
Pethegreatâ„¢vietman was not a war, congress never declared a war. We did not win loose or tie since the fighting never ended. how is it a "doomed war"? We freed the iraqi people from a murderous tryant who killed hundreds of thousands. Dread you need to back up your statment that it was a "doomed war" with sources.

Correction, we were losing pretty badly, which is why we left. We were being killed left and right.




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#7 13 years ago

Doomed< i hardly think so, lets see you refute these facts

Pros: More schools than ever open, girls attending Women in the workplace, colleges too 3 childrens prisions torn down (Over 500 children freed) Quarter million in mass graves uncovered (Families can have closure now) Saddam and 2 sons dead or captured Banks are now in legit international trade and exchange' largest small business growth in Iraqi history Utilities are in better shape now than during Saddams reign do I need to think of more......? Cons: Soilders lost (Shit happens, they singed up and knew, all be it sad though) money (Still have the fastest growing economy in 20 years) World Opinion (WTF cares)




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#8 13 years ago
Pethegreatâ„¢vietman was not a war, congress never declared a war. We did not win loose or tie since the fighting never ended.

a mere technicality. you sent soldiers to a foreign country and 60,000 of them never came back as a result of confrontations with the enemy. if that is not a war, what would you then call it?

how is it a "doomed war"? We freed the iraqi people from a murderous tryant who killed hundreds of thousands. Dread you need to back up your statment that it was a "doomed war" with sources.

i don't need sources to back my claim since the war pretty much speaks for itself. you cannot win a 'war against terrorists' as you're (we're) trying to do at the moment. you cannot kill them all or force their government to surrender (since terrorists don't have one). the kind of terrorists the world is facing today cannot be negotiated with since their ultimate goal is unattainable. the only way stop these people is to make sure they don't become terrorists in the first place and that is not done by provoking them into attacking you. we may liberate iraq from saddam, which in itself is a good thing, but the following consequences creates so many problems that the end result is not at all the rosy image you want to paint. the iraqi war was a mistake because the world situation was not ready for it. the liberation of iraq was an invitation to every fanatic muslim terrorist to come to the country. instead of attacking a country that had no ties to international terrorism you should have pursued social (not military) changes in the countries that actually do produce terrorists. the current strategy bush and his croonies are following has so many inherent flaws that there is no hope for victory. this 'war against terrorism' has been doomed from the beginning.




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#9 13 years ago

the green peace in your siggy certifies you a liberal weiner Now, back up the doomed statement, the left likes to throw insults without proof. Its there propaganda, mudslinging ways. We have lost 1700 to there 25,000, good ratio if you ask me for a war, and tchnically, this is not a war, it is a skirmish, a military action. We have not signed a declaration of war




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#10 13 years ago
cchalkleythe green peace in your siggy certifies you a liberal weiner

Better to be the liberal majority than the gun toting religious conservative minority.