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#1 2 years ago

It's finally happening. Someone seems to have had enough of Erdogan's fascist regime and is rising up. And, expectedly, it's coming from within the military. 

There's currently very little information available. Turkey's Prime Minister, Binali Yildirim, has stated that a group within the military is engaged in an attempted coup and that Turkish security forces are trying to "resolve the situation". Reuters is also reporting gunfire in Ankara, with jets and helicopters spotted over the city.




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#2 2 years ago

  Flights have been diverted away from Instanbul. The military has declared martial law and a curfew - their larger stated aims are to restore human rights. Erdogan is believed to be on Holiday in Bodrum.

An army group in Turkey says it has taken control of the country, with bridges closed in Istanbul and aircraft flying low over Ankara. PM Binali Yildirim earlier denounced an "illegal action" by a military "group", stressing it was not a coup. He said that the government remained in charge. Traffic has been stopped from crossing both the Bosphorus and Fatih Sultan Mehmet bridges in Istanbul. There are reports of gunshots in the capital Ankara. Gunfire was also heard outside Istanbul police HQ and tanks are said to be stationed outside Istanbul airport. All flights are cancelled. CNN Turk reported that President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was "safe" but did not elaborate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36809083 Military personnel are taking control of the TV stations: Cnbwx_LVYAA4Wh4.jpg https://twitter.com/Sosyal_Devrim/status/754054754678902784/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw




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#3 2 years ago

Explosion reported at police headquarters in Instanbul.

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https://twitter.com/SHAWSHANK5/status/754057079061618689/photo/1

Supposedly the police are far more in favour of Assad than the military are.

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Edit: Erdoğan appears still to be at large and has appeared to make a statement via facetime.




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Erdoğan appears still to be at large and has appeared to make a statement (from the look of it from a hotel room) via facetime. He's stated that he plans to return to the capital and has urged people to take to the streets.

I'm finding the idea that this is a handful of renegade military a bit hard to believe.

Youtube has been confirmed as being blocked in the country with DNS changes not working. (Still dubious)

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NBC is reporting (questionable) that Erdoğan has requested asylum in Germany (dubious).

Turkish state TV (TRT) has gone off the air.




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#5 2 years ago

Oh great another destabilization process. And then the zealots swoop in and we got another JV team in our hands.

And military coups rarely end well. (Usually it ends with Military Junta's being set up  so it's practically the same if not worse than a dictatorship)


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#6 2 years ago

Gunfire's been reported at Instanbul airport, (confirmed via sky - automatic, short burst) there was video of people apparently being shot via Sky (now seems more likely to be accurate description).

Viewer discretion advised - nothing too dramatic:

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There are reports (dubious) that tanks have opened fire.

[23:26 - CNN Turk is reporting on a clash between the civilians and the soldiers. Soldiers opened fire at the Bosphorus Bridge. http://uk.businessinsider.com/turkey-istanbul-military-bridges-2016-7?r=US&IR=T]

Some reports of heavily armed police taking to the streets - not sure how that'll go for them if it's true.

Unconfirmed source- video of helicopter firing into city:

https://twitter.com/HaniaSays/status/754074904610344960?ref_src=twsrc^tfw Edit: 23:27 - Mosques are reportedly playing messages from their speakers urging people into the streets.

23:46 - WSJ is claiming that E. was on holiday in Izmir.

Military appears to be being remarkably gentle. Military leadership - or some of them - have apparently ordered all soldiers back to their bases.

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Note - Turkish military is primarily a conscript force. Estimated relative strengths: 77,000 professionals and 325,000 conscripts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Land_Forces

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00:00 - Reports that specops commander has declared for the regime. (Dubious) reports that airforce have shot down a coup-force helicopter over Ankara with a fighter jet.

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Considering that there are reports that the army chief was seized and that the ground forces have used a helicopter to fire on the intelligence office it seems likely that the chiefs aren't behind it as much as colonels and brigadiers.

(very dubious) reports that 17 policemen killed when a helicopter fired on police station.

General commentary:

Okay, so seems to be slowing down by way of news a bit traditionally the Turkish military has viewed itself as having a... stabilising... effect on politics in the country. Much earlier 60-80s, the military essentially decided who was going to rule and their power's been being... restrained... ever since. So there's going to be a way in which this is a secular v religious and a military v democracy type thing. Interacting concerns make it all very unsure which way it's going to go in terms of popular support.

Ah well, sleep time now I think :p




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#7 2 years ago

"Lord Rumpuss V"Oh great another destabilization process. And then the zealots swoop in and we got another JV team in our hands.

And military coups rarely end well. (Usually it ends with Military Junta's being set up  so it's practically the same if not worse than a dictatorship)

Erdogan is generally viewed as a pro-Islamist element. Him being deposed, whilst it would result in temporary instability, could result in the installation of a secular leader. That would improve the battle against ISIS and curb migration.




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#8 2 years ago

"Secular Leader" No such thing in those places. The closest thing they got was that guy in the 60's or 70's and the natives weren't too happy.

If this drags on then the zealots move in.  Nemm already reported about mosques urging people to take to the streets. (Bad idea when all manner of remorseless projectiles are zipping about. But I guess they want their quota's of "Martyrs" )

If it ends swiftly, They (The military) might decide that it's best that they run things instead of the irresponsible, undisciplined, slack jawed civilians.

And finally I don't trust military take-overs of any kind, since usually it's the result of disgruntled officers who got passed over as a result of nepotism\cronyism  now vying for power and control. (And coming from the Philippines I have experienced this alot )


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#9 2 years ago

If the military proves unwilling to fire into the crowd, many of them being conscripts and it sounding like a lot of them don't know what's going on themselves, then I don't think it will succeed. But if the initial moment of mass crowds passes, then they may. 




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#10 2 years ago

Turkey Military Coup I'm laughing at this report right now. Someone should tell Obama to give it a rest.


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