Baby 'starved to death' because he did not say Amen 69 replies

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Tanith

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#31 10 years ago

Its a little hard at the moment to defend religion as when you get right down to it the current "War on Terrorism" is a religious war as the other side believe everything there doing is the wishes of their God. Religion sounds good but not when it leads to war, corruption & scams (Just look at Scientology). To an atheist it must seem like the most pointless thing ever and find wars over it to saying it was blown out of proportion would be a major understatement. Answer this: In the past couple hundred years has religion done more harm than good to the world?, where we would we be today if we didn't have the dark ages?

But on topic: Not saying amen is never a reason to ever kill anyone.




jackripped

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#32 10 years ago

Well some of the religious people really do believe that god has told or directed them to do these things, and what makes them any different to all of you religious people here ? What right do you have to say there understanding of the bible , god, and religion is misunderstood over yours ? I find it funny that we have never even seen a news headline that reads something like, ''scientist starves kid for not believing in evolution !'' l agree this person was a total fruit cake, from my perspective anyway, but then l dont believe in any god nor do l believe in the bible as being factual about or origins....... Whats retarded is, without religion in this case, ie, had that kids father been a scientist and half educated he would likely still be alive ! What a consept, a world with 80% athiests instead of a world of 80% religious !

You guys dont recon that would change the loony stats at all ? Religion is what sends half of them loopy ! Give em all a better education, one without religion...




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#33 10 years ago
jackripped;5262032Well some of the religious people really do believe that god has told or directed them to do these things, and what makes them any different to all of you religious people here ?

All of those religious people here haven't starved their children do to not saying Amen. If you can't see the difference then I fear there is no getting through to you.

Whats retarded is, without religion in this case, ie, had that kids father been a scientist and half educated he would likely still be alive !

Unless they happen to have gotten angry because of something else. Plenty of kids have been killed for non-religious reasons. If you are going to be black and white and separate the world into the religious and the non-religious, everything that has not been caused by religion must obviously have been caused by secularism.

Of course that isn't the case, because all secularists are different, just as all religious people are different.




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#34 10 years ago
Afterburner;5262034All of those religious people here haven't starved their children do to not saying Amen. If you can't see the difference then I fear there is no getting through to you.

Perhaps not every single one, but religiously motivated crimes in America are not as unheard of as you think.




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#35 10 years ago
Sedistix;5262135Perhaps not every single one, but religiously motivated crimes in America are not as unheard of as you think.

I'm sure they are common, and I'm sure most of them would be replaced with some other motivation. I've found that more often then not religion reveals how a person thinks rather then molding how they think.




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#36 10 years ago

Tanith;5262026where we would we be today if we didn't have the dark ages? [/QUOTE]

Significantly less advanced. The dark ages is somewhat of a misnomer.

[QUOTE=Sedistix;5262135]Perhaps not every single one, but religiously motivated crimes in America are not as unheard of as you think.

And what about religiously motivated acts of mercy or compassion? Religion is neither entirely evil nor entirely good.




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#37 10 years ago

What about all the scientific acts of kindness, teaching you knowledge for the sake of wanting the human race to be smarter overall ? From electricity to sunami wave warnings, scientists cannot be accused in general of being evil. But as you can see by the many pages, religious people can. Someones going to say, ''what about the weapons scientists create,'' well its the govenments that control that, but you always see the technoligy come through to the civilian side after a few years or so to great benifit. Like nuclea medicine with cancer etc etc etc etc etc etc !

So what do you recon the % difference between religious motivated crimes ,and athiest or darwinism motivated crimes ? Pretty funny to even think about that i recon.




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#38 10 years ago

jackripped;5262166What about all the scientific acts of kindness, teaching you knowledge for the sake of wanting the human race to be smarter overall ? From electricity to sunami wave warnings, scientists cannot be accused in general of being evil.[/QUOTE]

Of course scientists can be accused of being evil. I can easily accuse scientists of sacrificing the challenges of people in an ego-maniacal urge to purge themselves of uncertainty; that by doing so they weaken humanity.

Or take Lao Tzu's approach: You make people happy/safe by filling their guts and emptying their minds. Too much knowledge can be an evil and scientists just go around carelessly spreading it without a thought to the social consequencies.

Good and evil are relative to particular moral aesthetics.

jackripped;5262166But as you can see by the many pages, religious people can.

Anyone can be accused of anything, that's just the way language works, it doesn't make it true.

[QUOTE=jackripped;5262166]Someones going to say, ''what about the weapons scientists create,'' well its the govenments that control that, but you always see the technoligy come through to the civilian side after a few years or so to great benifit. Like nuclea medicine with cancer etc etc etc etc etc etc !

So what do you recon the % difference between religious motivated crimes ,and athiest or darwinism motivated crimes ? Pretty funny to even think about that i recon.

Crimes can be caused by a lack of faith as easily as its presence; and that's really all atheism is in the sense you're using it; just as death can be caused by a lack of oxygen. If people actually believed in a god that espoused the ten commandments I somehow doubt they'd be too quick to engage in murder and so on - arguably the vast majority of crimes arise out of insufficient faith.




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#39 10 years ago

ok so how oftern to you hear about crimes where evolutionists yell, ''darwin made me do it'' or science made me do it '' Nemmerle ?

Insufficient faith, omg, say that to an Arab and he will stab you where you stand in alot of cases.lve met a few and l wouldnt dare insult there religion in that detail, only to say l believe in evolution. See l see ALL godly religions as corrupt, and twisted systems of control. What makes your interpretation any better than his, god tell you the christian way is the right one and did he tell you how its supposed to be interpreted ? You cannot debate ''people dont follow religion correctly according to your or western understandings of it'' thats redonkulas. What if, for all you believers of god, the Islamic way is the correct one, and what if, the brutal interpretation is the one god wants ? How f**ked are you guys ! LOL !

How many times has a scientist, in a high position been accused of child sexual act ? How many times have Priests and other church members been accused ?

Its all a matter of perception did you say, ''Anyone can be accused of anything, that's just the way language works, it doesn't make it true.''

Well the perception is alot of evil resides with religions and church groups, but l dont see the world looking at our top scientists like that. ''




BlitZ, The 57th

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#40 10 years ago

Jackripped, why do you sound like we've insulted you or whatever your cause is? No one was insulting scientists nor claiming that atheists are wrong.