Bin Laden's latest tape says Moussaoui not linked to 9/11 31 replies

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MR.X`

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#21 13 years ago

:( Lost my old ways all right. My apologies, mon amis.

There is such a think as "truth sereum". It's called sodium pentathol. It is not, however, nearly as effective as most members of the media portray it to be. They work as sedatvies that supress your judgement and reasoning abilities, and thus increase the chances of you giving up information.




mcderek3000

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#22 13 years ago

Sodium pentothal - I remember we studied it as anaesthetic - nothing more. It's not very effective (and yes, you may as well give alcohol!). I guess the army would (should?) use it on terrorists as it doesn't harm or cause too much pain to suspects and when you want enemy troop locations it's better to have a half-guess than to have no info at all. Imagine if sodium pentothal was sensitive and specific enough to be accepted in a court of law - how much easier police work would be! :nodding: Police dude: "So Mr. OJ Simpson. Did you kill your wife?" Drugged OJ Simpson: "Why of course I killed her. murble murble shlub..." (Collapses unconscious) At the moment, however, there is no such thing as a brain neurone pathway for truth-telling or lying within the cerebrum. All the techniques that we have (lie-detector, "truth sera", etc) are indirect methods and not very accurate. If you think that sodium pentothal is effective, why is it not used in everyday life? (court of law, politicians' promises, government enquiries, etc) PS: I'm sorry if I got Dr Zoidberg temporarily banned. I wasn't offended by the word 'twit' at all. Please cancel the ban on him.




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#23 13 years ago

So if we catch Bin Laden we can inject him with Sodium Pentothal and ask "do you live in a cave?" and it will make him say "yup" ?




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#24 13 years ago

:bows: That was a great joke. If we catch Bin Laden, we can inject him with anything we want. I have nothing against imprisoning terrorists - but if an imprisoned person could be innocent, then that's a problem with me.




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#25 13 years ago
mcderek3000Sodium pentothal - I remember we studied it as anaesthetic - nothing more. It's not very effective (and yes, you may as well give alcohol!). I guess the army would (should?) use it on terrorists as it doesn't harm or cause too much pain to suspects and when you want enemy troop locations it's better to have a half-guess than to have no info at all. Imagine if sodium pentothal was sensitive and specific enough to be accepted in a court of law - how much easier police work would be! :nodding: Police dude: "So Mr. OJ Simpson. Did you kill your wife?" Drugged OJ Simpson: "Why of course I killed her. murble murble shlub..." (Collapses unconscious) At the moment, however, there is no such thing as a brain neurone pathway for truth-telling or lying within the cerebrum. All the techniques that we have (lie-detector, "truth sera", etc) are indirect methods and not very accurate. If you think that sodium pentothal is effective, why is it not used in everyday life? (court of law, politicians' promises, government enquiries, etc) PS: I'm sorry if I got Dr Zoidberg temporarily banned. I wasn't offended by the word 'twit' at all. Please cancel the ban on him.

Good information there mate, I hope to see you around more often!

I'm sure there's some proverb I could, or should, be quoting now. But I guess making up one of my own couldn't be that bad.

He was banned for actions he comitted, regardless if you were offended or not.

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#26 13 years ago

If we catch OBL id rather we just inject him with Drain-O




PsykOtiReX

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#27 13 years ago

do you like pacific fighters ??




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#28 13 years ago

I see several points in this thread. I'll try to take them all. ;) -You don't need a truth serum. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERSON WHO CAN RESIST TORTURE. Give me the man who thinks he "won't talk", and I guarantee he'll spill his guts by the time I get around to the third fingernail - perhaps the fourth one if he's really good. -I really couldn't care less if Moussi is innocent or not. He's confessed, and even if he wasn't involved, he WANTED to be involved - he's threat, and threats have to be eliminated. -This case shows the folly of trying terrorists with a civilian court. A military court would have hanged him already, and we wouldn't have to put up with all this media drivel.




EON_MagicMan

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#29 13 years ago
Machiavelli's Apprentice-You don't need a truth serum. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERSON WHO CAN RESIST TORTURE. Give me the man who thinks he "won't talk", and I guarantee he'll spill his guts by the time I get around to the third fingernail - perhaps the fourth one if he's really good.

Pull out a few of my finger nails and I'll tell you I killed Jean Benet Ramsey, if that's what you want to hear and if that's going to make it stop.




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#30 13 years ago
EON_MagicManPull out a few of my finger nails and I'll tell you I killed Jean Benet Ramsey, if that's what you want to hear and if that's going to make it stop.

But you would know that bad intelligence = more torture, so you would be careful to give accurate info. I'm not saying its perfect, but its way better than the pansy interrogations we do now. When a school or bus station is going to be blown up by a hidden bomb in 10 minutes - the terrorist's "human rights" would be my least concern.;)