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Flash525

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#1 10 years ago
Yahoo NewsChildren will learn by downloading information directly into their brains within 30 years, an education expert has predicted. Chris Parry, the new chief executive of the Independent Schools Council, said "Matrix-style" technology would render traditional lessons obsolete. [COLOR=black]He said: "It's a very short route from wireless technology to actually getting the electrical connections in your brain to absorb that knowledge."[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Mr Parry, a former Rear Admiral, spent three years determining the future strategic context for the military in a senior role at the Ministry of Defence.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]He said the Keanu Reeves thriller may not look like science fiction in 30 years' time.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]"Within 30 years, sitting down and learning something will be a thing of the past," Mr Parry said.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]"I think people will be able to directly access, Matrix-style, all the vocabulary you need for a foreign language, leaving you just to clear up the grammar."[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Mr Parry is now preparing the ISC's 1,300 private schools, which collectively teach half a million children, for a high-tech future.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]Now, whilst only parlty about the subject, I think the general point is obvious.[/COLOR] Does anyone else think that is wrong, or worrying at all? Effectively, anyone, could download anything to their brain. Be it another language, the tactics to become a brilliant martial artists, or a new sex position, I find it very worrying. At the moment, we are born, and we learn throughout life. We are always learning, and by what we learn, and how much notice we take, makes us the individuals that we are. If we are one day given the oppertunity to have anything we want downloaded into our brain, where does that leave humanity? We'd essentially have nobody that is better than anyone else? Qualifications would be rendered worthless, as if you wanted to know how to do a job (for example), all you'd have to do is download all knowledge on a job. If you wanted to learn how to fish, or how to ski, or how to drive, you'd download it. Wouldn't surprise me if at some point, they downloaded 'How to Walk' into the brains of babies. Thoughts? Source: Kids set for 'Matrix' future - Yahoo! News UK




adelphospro

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#2 10 years ago

What if you learned too much? This would cause all kinds of problems... What would happen to game shows! It would be cool, but it would be dangerous. Besides, the 'balance of life' would get messed up! Consider this: The nerds in school get tormented by the 'cool' kids. But a few years down the road the 'cool' kids are paying for their games, and are working for nerds. If everyone could download 'skills', humanity would lose self-control and self-discipline (Which we are already losing from other smaller things).




Sh0wdowN

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#3 10 years ago

Worrying? I disagree. I think it'd be a fantastic break-through, and I've thought about something of the likes myself. Although what you do need to keep in mind is that the predictions are usually off by a few years, I mean, people where predicted to have hovercars and personal spaceships in the year 2000, so the prediction's timeframe isn't all that reliable.

But your thought that we wouldn't have anyone who'd be better than others is wrong. It's not like people would be omniscient, they'd only have the same knowledge as anyone else, and it would work as a foundation on which they'd develop new technologies. If people had a fundamental understanding of scientific concepts at a young age, science would be revolutionized.




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#4 10 years ago

They better force the first generations to "study" this way to learn advanced robotics because no-one with a phd is going to clean up vomit for a job.




adelphospro

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#5 10 years ago

No kidding. My concern is this: What become of the purpose of hard work? Strong (physically) people get paid to sweat, smart people get paid to think, people who are neither do the most important tasks. Everyone would be smart, and it would not require much work to "think", and why work when you can just "think"? (Think about the internet. How much of us would rather browse the internet for a living rather than go to work?)




Tom_Son

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#6 10 years ago

Thats just plain scary, not only 'cause of what it does to natural evolution in a persons life, but imagine how a thing like that could be abused. What if you would download a virus into someones brain making his brain "crash". Privacy too, if there is a connection between your brain and a machine how can you be sure it can't take knowledge or memories out of you.

Scares the hell out of me




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#7 10 years ago

Our education system has been vaunted as one of the most cutting edge systems in the world.

50 years ago, schools taught children things like the chief exports of Canada, or the capital of Ethiopia, or long division. These things are worthless to teach these days, as ten seconds with Wikipedia, Google, or a calculator will get the answer. Instead, the new system teaches analytical skills, how to use and uncover the information, rather than just remembering data.

I see the above as just a continuation, in part, of that. The advancement of computers has meant we don't need to hold the data in our brains, merely to analyse it and utilise it. Likewise, this download would give you specific sets of data, and perhaps tell you how to use it, but it wouldn't stop you from applying it, or analysing it.

In cases like languages, it would be extremely useful, cutting years, decades even, from learning a new language. In almost all cases, the basic grammar rules can be picked up in a couple of days (in a language like Esperanto, you can pick up the basics in a matter of minutes), but the vocabulary takes years to learn, adding tens of thousands of everyday words to your memory. I would definitely get vocab-downloads.

What if you would download a virus into someones brain making his brain "crash".

Linux! =p So obviously one would need to be very careful, only taking information from trusted sources.




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#8 10 years ago

masked_marsoe;436437150 years ago, schools taught children things like the chief exports of Canada...[/QUOTE] I could tell you right off the bat the chief exports from 1609-1920 and their socio-political impacts on the development of this nation... Canadian Economic History was a damn good course.

I think its an interesting idea, but it has too much potential for harm and abuse with this technology. Who is going to make sure they don't pump you full of propaganda bullshit or educate people on "how" to vote or some such thing? Its a technology that could keep totalitarian regimes in place, with absolutely no opposition since once could technically be "taught" not to oppose the government. [QUOTE=adelphospro;4364311]No kidding. My concern is this: What become of the purpose of hard work? Strong (physically) people get paid to sweat, smart people get paid to think, people who are neither do the most important tasks. Everyone would be smart, and it would not require much work to "think", and why work when you can just "think"? (Think about the internet. How much of us would rather browse the internet for a living rather than go to work?)

Exactly. Once everyone has a degree in astrophysics or some such field of study, no one would work the warehouses, the gas stations, the banks, grocery stores, etc, the lesser-qualified jobs that keep everything else moving .




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#9 10 years ago

To be honest, I doubt it will be such a breaktrough as is professed. Because when you get new information so to speak, this information isn't cold. You attach experiences towards it, experiences which tell you how to use this information and how to access it. While this can quicken the overall rate of receiving information from more traditional sources, it cannot fully surpass them.

Also I strongly doubt the 30-year line.

Alternatively, it could create a giant gap between the people that can afford this technology and does that cannot. Where traditional schools to disappear, and the only source of education from these devices, controlling who and who doesn't get access to them is incredibly easy.

Alternatively, the people that would seek this possibility would generally not be among the most successful, since it shows a certain lazyness. They might get employed at first, somewhat ad hoc to be honest, but I highly doubt they would last for long, because they would have virtually no will or experiences to work with. Merely raw information. And that isn't enough. Even today, someone with a degree is not naturally better in a job than someone without it.




masked_marsoe VIP Member

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I agree that there is a massive potential for abuse, and perhaps I was too optimistic. It certainly has limited uses (language learning for instance).

Quetron Once everyone has a degree in astrophysics or some such field of study, no one would work the warehouses

Only assuming there were enough jobs in the field of astrophysics to keep people gainfully employed.

I think that the ability to download information would be limited to data only; you could download the info from a astrophysics textbook, but you would need to be able to prove you can use it in order to get the certificate.

In any case, the job openings for astrophysics are few and far between, and rocking up with the same ACME Astrophysics knowledge as a thousand others isn't going to get you a job. So yeah, they will end up in the warehouses and petrol stations.