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#1 2 years ago

This is just ticking in right now; Jo Cox, an MP from the Labour party, has been shot and stabbed by an attacker in West Yorkshire. She has been brought to Leeds General Infirmary, and police have set up armed guards around the hospital.

According to a tweet by Maria Eagle(another MP), eyewitnesses say the attacker shouted "Britain First" right before the attack. I'll try to keep this thread updated as more news tick in.

EDIT1: Clarification; politician, not politicians. Bit of a typo in the thread title.

EDIT2: Danish TV2 reports on a witness, 56 year old Hithem Ben Abdallah, who owns a café in the vicinity of the attack. He says a man from a nearby laundromat tried to stop the attacker, but was unable to do so.

EDIT3: It has now been confirmed that Jo Cox has passed away from her injuries.




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#2 2 years ago

Possibly the single most damaging thing they could have done if it's over the Europe referendum. Who wants to be associated with maniacs knifing people in the street?




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#3 2 years ago

After looking into these people, the "Britain First" organisation, it should've really been expected. They seem to be the Christian Anglo-Saxon equivalent of the Taliban. Back in May, they even swore to take militant action against London's Mayor, Sadiq Khan; 

In the release, Mr Golding says: “Britain First specialises in militant direct action and has tracked down and confronted numerous hate preachers and terrorists.

“Britain First now considers all Muslim elected officials as ‘occupiers’ and will start to oppose their strategy of entryism and take-over of our political system.”

Citing the apparent “intelligence” they receive, the group pledges to “focus on all aspects of their day-to-day lives and official functions, including where they live, work, pray and so on”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/sadiq-khan-britain-first-london-mayor-threaten-direct-action-a7047991.html




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#4 2 years ago

As much as I am saddened and dejected to read this, there's this little dirty piece of relief in all this story: the assailant was not a Muslim :(

Now I can comment without any background insecurity checks in my mind :( So yes. All motives of terrorism ought to be condemned, but religious terrorism is the worst of all. be it Muslim, Christian, Hindu or Jew.

"Nemmerle"Who wants to be associated with maniacs knifing people in the street?

It isn't much different in other parts of Europe (or the world in aggregate, either). We are probably living in one of the worst eras of history when there's no peace anywhere on Earth despite fantastically elevated lifestyles and unimaginable levels of comforts available to most people of the world :(




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#5 2 years ago

Let's not do him any favours by calling him a maniac. This needs to be stapled to the face of Britain First. I hope the media won't let them take distance from this, because their rhetoric fuels this kind of hate. They breed fear and paranoia, and this is the result. 




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#6 2 years ago

The killer has been identified by locals, 52-year-old man with a reported history of mental illness;

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/jo-cox-dies-first-picture-tommy-mair-suspected-killing-popular-labour-mp-bristall-1565896




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"Serio"Let's not do him any favours by calling him a maniac. This needs to be stapled to the face of Britain First. I hope the media won't let them take distance from this, because their rhetoric fuels this kind of hate. They breed fear and paranoia, and this is the result. [/quote]

There are going to be a number of things that could be feeding into this, and maniac is perhaps a poor way of putting it. He certainly wasn't a well adjusted individual, and that makes it relatively more likely that he'd be susceptible to rhetoric that thrives on fear of differences. Especially when you locate that within a culture as alienating and fractured as our own.

[quote="Aeia"]It isn't much different in other parts of Europe (or the world in aggregate, either). We are probably living in one of the worst eras of history when there's no peace anywhere on Earth despite fantastically elevated lifestyles and unimaginable levels of comforts available to most people of the world 

Eh, on balance I'm pretty happy to be alive now rather than a hundred years ago. Certainly one hopes that the future is better than the present, that we are living in one of the worst eras, but compared to what's gone before we're pretty lucky ^_^




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#8 2 years ago

Aye, we are at least in a somewhat more enlightened time when it comes to disowning brutal thugs, at least for the most part.  

It really just goes to show how uneducated and undisciplined some people really are.  To think that the best way to get your message across is to kill someone?  Because the only message I'm receiving is that you clearly lack any real ability to try and argue your point in a civil manner.  You know...something that might actually help, and something that will likely NOT pencil you in for a visit with the local mortician?


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#9 2 years ago

Well it's either gonna be a rigged election for the brexit thing or this.


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"Emperor Benedictine"The killer has been identified by locals, 52-year-old man with a reported history of mental illness;

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/jo-cox-dies-first-picture-tommy-mair-suspected-killing-popular-labour-mp-bristall-1565896[/quote]

How convenient!

I wish such tailor-made mental illness excuse was available for other violent maniacs and nutjobs too. If you know what I mean ;)

[quote="Adrian Ţepeş"]Aye, we are at least in a somewhat more enlightened time when it comes to disowning brutal thugs, at least for the most part.  

It really just goes to show how uneducated and undisciplined some people really are.  To think that the best way to get your message across is to kill someone?  Because the only message I'm receiving is that you clearly lack any real ability to try and argue your point in a civil manner.  You know...something that might actually help, and something that will likely NOT pencil you in for a visit with the local mortician?

Nah man. When it comes to an individual's terrorism, we are all ready to condemn and disown the brute. But when it comes to nation-level terrorism, things change. I am not writing this just to incriminate usa and allies for their heinous global activities of past 50 years and play the victim. Arabs did it when it was their heyday (Umayyads and Abbasids). Mongols and their descendants did it (Gengez Khan, Halagu Khan, Temurlane). Japanese did it. British did it. French did it. Spanish did it. Chinese did it.

Point is, we are not so willing to condemn terrorism and ogre-behavior when it is committed at international levels. A sizeable number of Muslims and Christians still support the brutality and genocides their historic heroes committed. The general populace of Indian Muslims still cherishes the raids of Mahmud Ghaznavi on India (which were aimed at looting and plundering btw, not for the glorification of Islam). A large number of British people (specially the older people) still favor the expansionist era and implicitly own the brutalities and genocides that were committed during the time.

So no. We are not living in an enlightened time. An individual or organization involved in horrific, violent crimes is easily labelled terrorist and disowned, but governments committing the same things on global scales are re-elected and the heads of states and military leaders are never incriminated for their war crimes. Saddam Hussein was incriminated andhanged for this war crimes back in Iran-Iraq and Iraq-Kuwait wars, but who will incriminate the allied forces assaulting Iraq in 2003 without any justified reason at all?




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