Decebalus;3622061Few things that I have to say: 1. For whoever says "Those sailors gave up", or stuff like that, just stfu and think for a second. What did exactly they give up? Your acting as if they gave up national secrets.......blah blah :D
Its no f**king use trying to explain this! How can one explain to a bunch of teenagers that have never even, or would never it seems join the forces let alone enter a live fire field!! Its not about who was and who wasnt tortured! Its about how they 'backed down' to the possible threat of torture! Anyway as we speak investigations are going on the UK on how these particular service people carried themselves. Enough said. Thanks.[COLOR=black][/COLOR]
I didn't make it!
Well in that case, its no use for you to tell us how cowardly they were for "backing down" as you clearly weren't in any such situations.
What reasons did they have to refuse to cooperate and be put on trial? Wouldn't you do the same if your life was in danger?
Your telling me that I never served, so I shouldn't have a say in this, yet what better judgment do you have? You weren't in that situation either.
Yeah right, cowards for not fighting back. Better than being dead "heroes" for a cause that is close to 0. Or cowards for not cooperating. Better than being in an iranian jail, or worst yet dead.
When your in that situation, do whatever you want. In fact, be a hero and not say a thing, even if it means death. Don't worry, people will worship your hero status, for about 3 seconds. :D
Decebalus;3622061Few things that I have to say:
1. For whoever says "Those sailors gave up", or stuff like that, just stfu and think for a second. What did exactly they give up? Your acting as if they gave up national secrets. Iran and the UK wasn't at war. What reason did they have to refuse to apear in the videos? Heck wtf choice did they have? When your captured, your owned. You got no freedom, no choices, you do what they tell you. If you still don't cooperate, there will be consequences. You think Iran wouldn't have put them on trial if they really wanted to? You think the US or Britain is in a situation to start a war for 15 sailors?
2. I think those British sailors are full of shit. Some of them at least. Selling their story for 100,000 euros? Basically, they hit a fricking jackpot.
3. If you actually do read some of the women's story (The female sailor), you realize how much whining there is. You really don't know who to believe anymore. -They were blindfolded. What a tragedy. Guess what, its hard to think of captured people that weren't blindfolded. Heck, the US does this to Iraqi people all the time. Even if innocent. Just standard procedure. -Kept in isolation. Well, with the fear of being attacked, who wouldn't be stupid enough not to isolate them. Isolation means a really low chance of a rescue. -Interogation and intimidation tactics. Everybody does it, so why the surprise. The British does it too when they capture somebody.
In one of her recent story she says that she "thinks" she was "measured" for her coffin. What the heck? How do you think that while not being sure? Its either you know it or you don't. What she did is come up with a bunch of speculations, mix in some facts, and sell them for 100,000 euros, making money on a sad event.
If you really think about it, those sailors are the winners here.
-They got a ride home (No more combat for a while) -Got them out of danger's way (Not that Iraqi waters were that dangerous) -Some of the sailors made big money by selling their story the the media. -They are labeled as hero's, and heck, they even got some cheap Iranian suits.
How many people in the armed forces get that?
I'm expecting them to say they were tortured next. You know, if you don't have much of a story to sell, you add in some speculations, and make up something worth selling :D
They did give it up too easy. Military people are going to judge this differently that civilians, just the way it is. No need to get excited or you'll get your skirt dirty, sweetheart.
In the military you just might have to die or suffer injury for duty and honor. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but it's the people with their fingers on the triggers that decide what happens next, everyone else is just a spectator.
We were trained to take necessary steps to render ourselves useless for propaganda. We'd beat each other in the face or do it ourselves to mark us up. And yes, we would die before making any statements. It's not a game for the meek or those afraid to die.
Decebalus;3622430Well in that case, its no use for you to tell us how cowardly they were for "backing down" as you clearly weren't in any such situations. [/quote] What and you were!? Works both ways. [quote=Decebalus;3622430] When your in that situation, do whatever you want. In fact, be a hero and not say a thing, even if it means death. Don't worry, people will worship your hero status, for about 3 seconds. :D
What a silly thing to say dude, really. I didnt say you have no right to voice your opinions, I said its hard to explain to someone that hasnt at least been trained in the services! Theres a difference.
*Im trying my best to bite my tongue here to stop me from calling you a complete idiot!!* But I wont (;))