Heaven's gonna burn your eyes
16th April 2005
George Bush, the US president, has signed an executive order forbidding the CIA to torture, humiliate or abuse suspected terrorists in its once-secret interrogation program.
Jennifer Daskal, a senior counter-terrorism counsel with Human Rights Watch, said: "The key aspect of this is all the parts that aren't said."
Daskal said that the order allowed "a system of incommunicado detention to continue, with the blessing of the president.
While it's good that there is some recognition of this problem, and this is a small step towards rectifying that, that torture has existed is not acceptable.
Ah... I didn't know there was stuff like that going on, but I'm not surprised... At least it's being stopped I suppose.
An important step but unfortunately the new guidelines they set up themselves are sort of vague. Not to mention the CIA will just haul prisoners to Egypt or something so they can be tortured outside of national law.
I didn't make it!
Sadly Karst this is true. Just because the President has issued an executive order forbidding them to torture, doesnt mean they won't still do it and just Cut him out of the loop. But if torturing 1 man and gaining a vital piece of information saved millions of lives woulod it be worth it. Its the Numbers Game.
Yea, read about this in the morning paper. Problem was, the paper itself pushes a strong anti-Iraq, something of an anti-Bush, and an even lesser anti-US bias, and the story was confined to the smallest part of the last page, and without anything but that headline making the entire article pretty much. I think its still a good thing, that Bush will admit that there's something of a problem (among others) and that he is not willing to take some shortcuts in human rights (among others) in order to maintain national security.
The-Bleh-Bleh;3808964Ah... I didn't know there was stuff like that going on, but I'm not surprised... At least it's being stopped I suppose.
By no means is an executive order going to stop it. Maybe cut down on it, sure, but not eliminate it. The main benefit of this is that it shows we "officially" don't condone torture.
I doubt this will actually be enforced. It seems to be just a PR move to get torture skeptics off of his back...
Why shouldn't they be tortured? They're terrorists and illegal enemy combatants. If the shitbags have information, it should be beaten out of them. Besides, it's not as if they wouldn't do the same thing to any of their captives.
OMG...... Bush did something smart!
Yea...but really, Good decision on his part. Turture is very wrong, even if we use it on enemies, torture sucks. We have to use other means to get info, not hurt them until they tell us.
What other means of extracting information is there with those people? They understand one thing: Violence.