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#1 13 years ago

Bush on the Constitution: 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml

Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.

Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”

“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”

And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that “goddamned piece of paper” used to guarantee.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the “Constitution is an outdated document.”

Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn’t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn’t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine – in the end – if something is legal or right.

Every federal official – including the President – who takes an oath of office swears to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a “living document.”

“"Oh, how I hate the phrase we have—a 'living document,’” Scalia says. “We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete's sake.”

As a judge, Scalia says, “I don't have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it's better than anything else.”

President Bush has proposed seven amendments to the Constitution over the last five years, including a controversial amendment to define marriage as a “union between a man and woman.” Members of Congress have proposed some 11,000 amendments over the last decade, ranging from repeal of the right to bear arms to a Constitutional ban on abortion.

Scalia says the danger of tinkering with the Constitution comes from a loss of rights.

“We can take away rights just as we can grant new ones,” Scalia warns. “Don't think that it's a one-way street.”

And don’t buy the White House hype that the USA Patriot Act is a necessary tool to fight terrorism. It is a dangerous law that infringes on the rights of every American citizen and, as one brave aide told President Bush, something that undermines the Constitution of the United States.

But why should Bush care? After all, the Constitution is just “a goddamned piece of paper.”

Before you rant about the source, I've seen other articles from www.worldnetdaily.com, which is from the other end of the political spectrum.

That is a pretty bold statement by Bush. It is VERY scary he feels that way about it, because...hell, that is what gives us most of our rights/freedoms that we have today. I can't believe he had the gall to call it a "goddamn piece of paper"...:cort:




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#2 13 years ago

People often say things that they do not mean when they are flustered and angry. I'm sure that this is just one of those situations.

I'm more shocked that he "took the Lord's name in vain". Isn't that a capital crime to his people?




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#3 13 years ago
USMA2010 I'm more shocked that he "took the Lord's name in vain". Isn't that a capital crime to his people?

You don't actually believe that he's religious, do you?




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#4 13 years ago

Well, Americans do seem to take it a bit too seriously sometimes. I've never seen people from any other country mention their constitutions half as often.




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#5 13 years ago
Master of RealityYou don't actually believe that he's religious, do you?

Oh Christ, here comes another conspiracy theory...

/me takes a nap.

Tell me when it's over.




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#6 13 years ago
JeffroI can't believe he had the gall to call it a "goddamn piece of paper"...:cort:

Well it is the piece of paper than can stop him keeping stuff like the patroit act from lasting.

Well, Americans do seem to take it a bit too seriously sometimes. I've never seen people from any other country mention their constitutions half as often.

The constution defends the people from the goverment. It is what made the US the land of the free. It is what many other democratic countries based their constutions on.

People often say things that they do not mean when they are flustered and angry. I'm sure that this is just one of those situations.

I hope so. If it was out of anger like you said its ok, but if he ment it:cort:




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#7 13 years ago

Well in all honestly i do think the constetution is kind of outdated but.. its not just a piece of "god damn" paper.




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#8 13 years ago
PethegreatThe constution defends the people from the goverment. It is what made the US the land of the free. It is what many other democratic countries based their constutions on.

I'm aware. Said other countries aren't making as big a deal out of theirs, though.




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#9 13 years ago

That Patriot Accti thing is what really got me...I looked it up...Its' pretty bad..

Why should anything Bush does surprise us.




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#10 13 years ago

Oh my god, he's offended the piece of paper!

As a legal document, parts of the constitution can be repealed, much in the same way, the whole Human Rights Act 1998 could be repealed in the UK.

Do you see us walking round worshiping the HRA? Its the only document that actually really properly states our rights, yet most people probably dont even know it exits.

Its time to understand the your constitution is not the be all and end all. So long as a bill is approved by the Supreme court (i think thats what it is in the US), then it can change the constitution as it states.