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Zab

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[color=black]GEORGE W. BUSH RESUME[/color]

[color=black]ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:[/color]

[color=black]I attacked and took over two countries. [/color] [color=black]I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury. [/color] [color=black]I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history. [/color] [color=black]I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 2-month period. [/color] [color=black]I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market. [/color] [color=black]I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner. [/color] [color=black]I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record. [/color] [color=black]In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history. [/color] [color=black]After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history. [/color] [color=black]I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history. [/color] [color=black]In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs. [/color] [color=black]I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history. [/color] [color=black]I set the all-time record for the most foreclosures in a 12-month period. [/color] [color=black]I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history. [/color] [color=black]I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV. [/color] [color=black]I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history. [/color] [color=black]I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed. [/color] [color=black]I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have. [/color] [color=black]I cut health care benefits for war veterans. [/color] [color=black]I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. [/color] [color=black]I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history. [/color] [color=black]I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history. [/color] [color=black]Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her). [/color] [color=black]I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt. [/color] [color=black]I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world. [/color] [color=black]I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community. [/color] [color=black]I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States. [/color] [color=black]I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history. [/color] [color=black]I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission. [/color] [color=black]I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board. [/color] [color=black]I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history. [/color] [color=black]I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. [/color] [color=black]I withdrew from the World Court of Law. [/color] [color=black]I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions. [/color] [color=black]I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections. [/color] [color=black]I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations. [/color] [color=black]The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation). [/color] [color=black]I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history. [/color] [color=black]I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1). [/color] [color=black]I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government. [/color] [color=black]I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history). [/color] [color=black]I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability. [/color] [color=black]I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea. [/color] [color=black]I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. [/color] [color=black]I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts. [/color] [color=black]I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war. [/color] [color=black]I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down. [/color]

[color=black]RECORDS AND REFERENCES: [/color]

[color=black]I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available). [/color] [color=black]I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war. I refused to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use. [/color]

[color=black]All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. [/color]

[color=black]All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. [/color]

[color=black]All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. [/color]

[color=black]Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. [/color]

[color=black]For personal references, please speak to my dad or uncle James Baker (They can be reached in their offices at the Carlyle Group where they are helping to divide up the spoils of the US-Iraq war and plan for the ext one.)[/color]




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#2 14 years ago

yawwwwwwwwn seen it. it's old, zzzzzzzzzzzzzz




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#3 14 years ago

Interesting info you've compiled there for us, Zab. I think what you've posted is very intuitive but I'm sure there will be people who'll oppose it. This is bound to bring some criticism from both Liberals and Conservatives alike. Happy hunting.




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#4 14 years ago

Lol. I got it off a site. :p I wish I could take the credit though!




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#5 14 years ago

cutnpaste artist:

JOHN FORBES KERRY, "MAN OF THE PEOPLE"

CAREER OBJECTIVE

President of the United States, Renter of the Lincoln bedroom, Intern Supervisor, Commander and Chief and Defender of the Working Man, I mean Person

EDUCATION

Educated at Swiss Boarding Schools -- because my parents did not like me that much

Attended elite private schools like Fessenden School in West Newton, Massachusetts and St. Paul's in New Hampshire -- just like your kids

Graduated Yale University, 1966 (I am much smarter than that Bush guy -- oh, wait, he also went to Yale.)

Graduated Boston College Law School in 1976 (I am much smarter than that Bush guy -- oh, wait, he got an MBA from Harvard.)

VIETNAM MILITARY SERVICE

Served as an officer on a swiftboat in the Mekong Delta in VIETNAM for three long months -- tried my best to come home a hero like JFK after his service on PT-109. I was in VIETNAM -- VIETNAM was a place where I was for a while. Did I mention that VIETNAM veterans love me?

I collected three Purple Hearts in my three months (had to get three in order to come home and run for Congress as a hero like JFK) and the last one for that scratch on my finger -- it REALLY did hurt! It was important to have the right connections so I could get home and run for Congress on my hero status like JFK -- he was not in VIETNAM, but I was.

Brought my own motion camera to make sure images of me in VIETNAM becoming a hero made it back home to the states. Got a free trip home after three months on my swiftboat where I suffered severe injuries and collected three Purple Hearts (did I mention that), a Bronze and Silver Star for heroism -- ensuring my destiny as a hero and man of the people like JFK.

Got home and found out they were not bestowing hero status on war heroes like me, so I threw my medals, or was it my ribbons, over the White House fence. Maybe it was someone else's medals.

Co-founder of the VIETNAM Veterans of America and spokesperson for the VIETNAM Veterans Against the War and worked closely with Jane Fonda to make sure everyone knew that all the guys in VIETNAM were war criminals -- I was too, and even testified before the Senate about my own war crimes.

"Represented" my cadre of anti-American misfits in a Paris meeting to discuss how we could better provide "aid and comfort" for the North Vietnamese and to discuss the unconditional surrender of the U.S. In doing so, I knowingly, directly violated UCMJ Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953.

Did I mention that this meeting, and my other anti-American activities, also put me in violation of the Constitution's Article three, Section three, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

Consequently, I stand subject to the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President...having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

But I don't have to resign -- I am understudy to Teddy Kennedy, now the patriarch of JFK's family.

I topped off my coddling of Commies by authoring a book called The New Soldier -- but since military heroes are back in vogue, I now sue anyone who reproduces the cover of that book on any website, especially a website like http://kerry-04.com/. (The cover picture is a mockery of the Iwo Jima flag raising -- you can see it at http://kerry-04.com/ until my lawyers get them to take it down.)

NOTE: Please join fellow Patriots and sign the petition demanding John Kerry's resignation. Link to -- http://www.PatriotPetitions.US/Kerry (If you don't have Web access, please send a blank e-mail to: Each e-mail sent to this address will be counted as one signature for the petition.)

CONGRESSIONAL "SERVICE"

Volunteered as a campaign worker for my mentor, Teddy Kennedy in 1962. I just love that big lug!

My first campaign for Congress was in 1972 -- I was a war hero like JFK but nobody noticed so I ran on my anti-American platform. I won the primary with a little help from my campaign manager (brother Cameron) who broke into my opponents campaign headquarters. Unfortunately, because of that Watergate thing, I lost the general election to a Republican even after spending more than any other Congressional campaign in the nation.

In 1982, with the help of Uncle Teddy, I got elected as lieutenant governor for governor Michael Dukakis -- then got elected to the Senate in 1984 -- it has been smooth sailing ever since.

I have dedicated the last 20 years, between wives and vacation homes, promoting big government spending (except in defense and intelligence, which I vote against every chance I get), class warfare, the welfare state and general wealth redistribution, any kind of abortion on demand (without parental consent for minors), and obstructionist tactics in the judicial nominee process.

According to Americans for Democratic [sic] Action, a far-left watchdog group, I have a higher lifetime liberal voting record at 93% than Ted Kennedy with 88%

I am the ranking Democrat member of the Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship. My current millionaire wife is heiress of the Heinz Ketchup fortune -- a "small" business

Ranking member of the Hispanic Task Force, even though I "borked" Miguel Estrada

Chaired the Senate Democratic Leadership Steering and Coordination Committee

In 1987, teemed up with Teddy to get an override of presidential veto of Boston's Big Dig Boondoggle -- one of the most larded distributions of taxpayer largess in U.S. history.

In 1991 the Senate created the Select Senate Committee on POW/MIA Affairs to investigate the possibility that U.S. prisoners of war and soldiers designated missing in action were still alive in Vietnam. Acting as chairman, I helped persuade the group to vote unanimously that no American servicemen still remained in Vietnam. In doing so, I helped begin the process of normalizing U.S.-Vietnamese relations.

Wealthiest senator ("man of the people"), with an estimated net worth of nearly $200 million (that's $800 million if you combine it with my current wife's assets)

POLITICAL POSTURING AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS:

ABORTION

Voted to federally fund abortions

Voted against parental consent for minors

Voted against ban on Partial Birth Abortion (3 times)

Voted against ban on sending money to UN population fund -- the money was sent to pay for China's forced abortion and sterilization policy

Have been warned by Catholic clergy that I will not be served communion due to my stance on this issue

NARAL lifetime rating of 100%; National Right to Life Committee lifetime rating of 0%

DEATH PENALTY

Oppose federal and/or state death penalty (except for innocent unborn children -- see above)

Voted against death penalty for terrorists

Voted against death penalty for drug-related murders

TAXES & ECONOMICS

I like high taxes and want to raise them

Voted against all three Bush tax cuts & want to repeal them

Voted for 1993 Clinton tax hike (largest in history)

Voted against major tax relief packages at least 10 times

Support re-raising taxes on the wealthy to redistribute money for healthcare and education -- i.e., Socialism

Claim I can stop outsourcing and create 10 million new jobs in four years, despite the fact that there are only about 8 million unemployed people in the U.S.

Want to raise the minimum wage, which will result in outsourcing and the loss of jobs Voted at least 5 times against balanced budget amendments

Voted at least 5 times to raid the Social Security Trust Fund

Believe Washington manages your money better than you could

Lifetime rating of 26% from Citizens Against Government Waste

MILITARY & NATIONAL SECURITY

We don't need a military, per se

Favor UN control of remaining U.S. Troops

Voted for 7 major reductions in military funding

Voted against Gulf War I (1991)

Voted for Gulf War II -- but then criticized and voted against military appropriation for troops

Voted against MX missile, Trident Submarine, SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative -- Star Wars), and the B-1 and B-2 Stealth Bomber/Fighter

Supported slashing $2.6 billion from intelligence funding while serving as a member of Senate Intelligence Committee

SECOND AMENDMENT

Against

Have earned a lifetime rating of 0% from the National Rifle Association

FAITH & VALUES

Against/Don't have any

Voted Against Defense of Marriage Act

Favor civil unions for homosexuals until marriage is popular enough to support

Voted to extend hate crimes protections to homosexuals

Voted against voluntary school prayer

Voted against ban on human cloning and support embryonic stem-cell research

EDUCATION

Voted against voucher pilot program

Voted against approving a school-choice pilot program

Support racial profiling and preference for admission to universities, known as "affirmative action"

JUDGES, COURTS & LAW

Against racial profiling and preference when dealing with terrorism

Voted against confirmation William Rehnquist as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court

Voted against confirmation of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court

Only support activist judges who will support abortion, persecute Christians and rewrite the Constitution

Voted against confirmation John Ashcroft as U.S. Attorney General

Voted against punitive damage limits in products liability cases

As Michael Dukakis' Lt. Governor from 1983-1985, supported granting prison furloughs to hundreds of Massachusetts inmates

FOREIGN POLICY

Against linking Most Favored Nation status to China's human rights record

Voted for Kyoto Protocol on Environment that exempted major Third World polluters, while creating an unfair burden on American taxpayers

Supported Iraq regime change as late as January 2003, but not anymore

Support unilateral nuclear freeze

Support submitting completely to the UN, as well as the International Criminal Court, taking all sovereignty away from the U.S. and its citizens

Don't know what the Geneva Conventions say, mean or who they apply to

OTHER QUALIFICATIONS

Five multi-million dollar mansions

A large multi-million dollar yacht

Many "American" cars, including several gas-guzzling SUVs, which I am opposed to politically

Personal 757 campaign jet

Access to unlimited condiments -- did I mention my current millionaire wife is heiress to the Heinz fortune

Have dual citizenship in France

REFERENCES

General Vo Nguyen Giap -- most celebrated military hero of NORTH VIETNAM, where I served

"Hanoi Jane" Fonda

Teddy Kennedy

John F. Kennedy -- we have the same initials

Howard Dean -- (Albert Gore by proxy)

Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw and Peter Jennings




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#6 14 years ago

[color=Red]Kerry is a self made man, unlike Bush, who comes from a LEGACY.[/color] John Kerry's Real Biography ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John F. Kerry was born on December 11, 1943 at Fitzsimons Army Hospital in Colorado. His father, Richard, volunteered in the Army Air Corps and flew DC-3's and B-29's as a test pilot during World War II. His mother, Rosemary, was a lifelong community activist and devoted parent. She was a Girl Scout leader for 50 years, and one of her proudest possessions was her 50 year Girl Scout pin. She was an environmentalist and a community activist. Not long after John Kerry was born, the family settled in Massachusetts. Growing up there, his parents taught him the values of service and responsibility and the blessings of his Catholic faith, lessons John Kerry carries with him to this day. Because his father was a Foreign Service Officer in the Eisenhower administration, John Kerry traveled a lot when he was young. On these trips, he learned firsthand what makes America a leader in the world - our optimism and our democratic values. And he learned that nations across the world share many common goals and that the best way to achieve them is through building strong alliances. As he was graduating from Yale, John Kerry volunteered to serve in Vietnam, because, as he later said, "it was the right thing to do." He believed that “to whom much is given, much is required.” And he felt he had an obligation to give something back to his country. John Kerry served two tours of duty. On his second tour, he volunteered to serve on a Swift Boat in the river deltas, one of the most dangerous assignments of the war. His leadership, courage, and sacrifice earned him a Silver Star, a Bronze Star with Combat V, and three Purple Hearts. But John Kerry's wartime experience taught him a painful lesson that he could not forget, even after he returned home. In the midst of battle, he had seen the lives of his fellow soldiers, his friends, put at risk because some leaders in Washington were making bad decisions. He decided he had a responsibility to his friends still serving, the friends he had lost, and his country, to help restore responsible leadership in America. So he decided to become active as a Vietnam Veteran Against the War (VVAW). He became a spokesman for VVAW and later co-founded Vietnam Veterans of America. Only 27 years old, John Kerry sounded this call to reason in April 1971 when he testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and posed the powerful question, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?" Later, John Kerry accepted another tour of duty - to serve in America's communities. After graduating from Boston College Law School in 1976, John Kerry went to work as a top prosecutor in Middlesex County, Massachusetts. He took on organized crime and put behind bars "one of the state's most notorious gangsters, the number two organized crime figure in New England." He fought for victims' rights and created programs for rape counseling. John Kerry was elected Lieutenant Governor in 1982. In that office, he organized the nation's Governors to combat the acid rain that was polluting lakes, rivers, and the nation's water supply. Two years later, he was elected to the United States Senate and he has won reelection three-times since. He is now serving his fourth term, after winning again in 2002. John Kerry entered the Senate with a reputation as a man of conviction. He confirmed that reputation by taking bold decisions on important issues. He helped provide health insurance for millions of low-income children. He has fought to improve public education, protect our natural environment, and strengthen our economy. He has been praised as one of the leading environmentalists in the Senate, who stopped the Bush-Cheney plan to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. John Kerry has never forgotten the lessons he learned as a young man – lessons that have been strengthened in his 19 years on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He has learned that America must work with other countries to achieve our goals and the world's common goals. From his ground-breaking work on the Iran-Contra scandal to his leadership on global AIDS, John Kerry has distinguished himself as one of our nation's most respected voices on national security and international affairs. As chairman of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, he worked closely with John McCain to learn the truth about American soldiers missing in Vietnam and to normalize relations with that country. As the ranking Democrat on the East Asian and Pacific Affairs Subcommittee, he is a leading expert on that region, including North Korea. Years before September 11th, John Kerry wrote The New War, an in-depth study of America's national security in the 21st Century. He worked on a bipartisan basis to craft the American response to September 11th and has been a leading voice on American policy in Iraq and Afghanistan, the war on terrorism, the Middle East peace process and Israel's security. John Kerry would not be running today if it were not for the enthusiastic support of his family. He is married to Teresa Heinz Kerry, and they have a blended family that includes two daughters, three sons, one grandchild, and a German Shepard named Cym.




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Zab [b][color=black]I attacked and took over two countries. [/color] [/QUOTE] Both of which harbored terrorists

Zab[color=black]I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury. [/color]

Not true. President does not have the power to do that, or the ability.

[QUOTE=Zab][color=black]I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history. [/color]

Also not true. I think it was Andrew Jackson who held that honor

[color=black]I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 2-month period. [/color] Dont think thats true....and if it is, the president doesnt have anything to do with private bankrupticies

[color=black]I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market. [/color] Not true...that honor goes to Herbert Hoover, who was president during the time of the Stock Market Crash

[color=black]I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner. [/color] He cant do that...and if thats true, so what if he did?

[color=black]I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record. [/color]Not true, Andrew Jackson agian takes that one

[color=black]In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history. [/color] Not true, I think thats Clinton

[color=black]After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history. [/color] Not the president's fault

[color=black]I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history. [/color] Not true, thats a different president

[color=black]In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs. [/color] Due to the recession, not president's fault

[color=black]I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history. [/color] Dont think thats true.

[color=black]I set the all-time record for the most foreclosures in a 12-month period. [/color] President has nothin to do with that

[color=black]I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history. [/color] Not true.

[color=black]I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV. [/color] Actually that would be Jackson

[color=black]I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history. [/color] Not true

[color=black]I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed. [/color] Ok I will give u that one

[color=black]I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have. [/color] Thats not true, the presidents of the 70's during gas rationing presided over the highest prices.

[color=black]I cut health care benefits for war veterans. [/color] Not true.

[color=black]I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. [/color] Dont think so...

[color=black]I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history. [/color] Not true, thats Clinton

[color=black]I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history. [/color] Not true agian.

[color=black]Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her). [/color] Not true, that goes to Clinton.

[color=black]I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt. [/color] Horribly untrue.

[color=black]I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world. [/color] How is this the president's fault?

[color=black]I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community. [/color] Because they wouldnt enforce their own policies.

[color=black]I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States. [/color] ???

[color=black]I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history. [/color] Because we are in war

[color=black]I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission. [/color] Dont think thats true

[color=black]I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board. [/color] Agian, dont think its true.

[color=black]I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history. [/color] Um, so?

[color=black]I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant. [/color] It already was

[color=black]I withdrew from the World Court of Law. [/color] What the hell is that?

[color=black]I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions. [/color] Actually not true at all. We let the Internat. Red Cross in quite a bit.

[color=black]I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections. [/color] Elections were verified as counting toward George Bush.

[color=black]I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations. [/color] Not true, see Clinton agian.

[color=black]The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation). [/color] Ok that one may be true.

[color=black]I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history. [/color] Not true, thats Clinton agian.

[color=black]I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1). [/color] What the hell? He didnt run and hide..thats blatently wrong.

[color=black]I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government. [/color] If its a 'secret shadow' government, how do we kno about it then?

[color=black]I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history). [/color] The world resents us because we didnt use constant diplomacy, which would have gotten us nowhere...we used force.

[color=black]I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability. [/color] Pfft..so? Who cares what the Europeans think about the US? And what poll found this out?

[color=black]I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea. [/color] Dude..South Korea and America are allies...why would we threaten them?

[color=black]I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. [/color] Dont think so.

[color=black]I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts. [/color] Mabey...

[color=black]I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war. [/color] Because you have the republicans who believed in the use of force and then the democrats who wanted diplomacy...and the statement isnt true...in the Civil War, the nation was more divided.

[color=black]I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down. [/color] Not true....later years of clinton is when the economy started to drop and 9/11 tipped the scale

You found this liberal crap on some stupid anti-Bush website. It makes outrageous claims with no proof. Its a bunch of crap.

If you can prove every statement that u made in bold right then I will apoligze.....but over 3/4ths of that is FUBAR.

God you must not be able to think for yourself if u find that list and think its true without checking facts.

[QUOTE=Octovon] This is bound to bring some criticism from both Liberals and Conservatives alike. QUOTE]

Gee...ya think? You mean there might be people who kno that this list is pure crap and can prove agianst over half of it? You mean some people will think for themselves? Wow....ur a smart fella :D




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#8 14 years ago
nitestrykerQuote: Originally Posted by Zab [color=SeaGreen] [b][/color][color=black][color=SeaGreen]I attacked and took over two countries[/color]. [/color] Both of which harbored terrorists[/quote] [color=Red]Wait, did he or did he not attack and take over 2 countries?roll%20eyes%20%28sarcastic%29.gif Again, Afghanistan was a just war, but when did Iraq harbor terrorists? Al Qaeda and Saddam don't mix. Saddam was secular, and Al Qaeda is based on Wahhabism. They are in direct confrontation with eachother. So, Iraq never harbored terrorists, and that's why. [/color]
nitestrykerQuote: Originally Posted by Zab [color=SeaGreen]I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury. [/color] [color=Red] Not true. President does not have the power to do that, or the ability.[/quote] It is very true. He does have the power and the ability to do it, where have you been?! Where did it go then??roll%20eyes%20%28sarcastic%29.gif[/color] [color=Red] He does have the power. It's called cutting taxes, and spending waaaay too much. Guess what, we have a deficit now of around $500 billion!! [/color]
nitestrykerQuote: Originally Posted by Zab [color=SeaGreen]I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history. [/color] Also not true. I think it was Andrew Jackson who held that honor[/quote] [color=Red]Hmm, last time I checked the deficit is $500 billion. That's definitely astronomically higher than anything Andrew Jackson had ever heard of. It is the highest deficit EVER. Our national debt is $7 trillion, a bit higher approximately. Did you know if we had stayed on Clinton's economic course, we would've been able to pay back the national debt by 2010? Amazing isn't it? Too bad Bush is setting us back.[/color]
nitestryker [color=SeaGreen]I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 2-month period. [/color] Dont think thats true....and if it is, the president doesnt have anything to do with private bankrupticies[/quote] [color=Red]It is true. He does have something to do with personal bankruptcies. His decisions, economic or not, affect the American people. Seeing as he's driven the economy south, there are more bankruptcies. (here's a link too if you want more!) http://abcnews.go.com/sections/business/DailyNews/bankruptcy_020815.html[/color] [color=black]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market. [/color][/color]
[color=Red][color=White] Not true...that honor goes to Herbert Hoover, who was president during the time of the Stock Market Crash[/color][/quote] [color=Red]I'm sorry, I'm wrong, the largest drop ever in the stock market was under another Republican, Ronald Reagan. It dropped 22.6% in 1987. It has dropped significantly under Bush though. The largest point drop, not total drop, still goes to Bush! [The Dow Jones industrial average lost 678.52 points, or 7.07 percent, to 8,921.18. It was its greatest point loss ever...] - Foxnews.com [The Dow has dropped nearly 24 percent from its closing high of 11,722.98 hit on Jan. 14, 2000, a decline that has plunged it deep into ``bear market'' territory — officially defined as a 20 percent drop from its highs.] -Foxnews.com [/color] [/color] [color=Red](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34464,00.html)[/color] [color=black]
Nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner. [/color][/color]
He cant do that...and if thats true, so what if he did?[/quote] [color=Red]He obviously can and he did....It's obviously something President's didn't do, considering Bush is the first to do it. [/color] (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2861467.stm) [color=black]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record. [/color][/color]
Not true, Andrew Jackson agian takes that one[/quote][color=Red]Are you pulling Andrew Jackson out of your ass? He was not a criminal. He was a war hero, but no criminal. Bush is the first. He had a DUI in Maine, but his DUIs and his criminal record in Texas have been erased and are not available.[/color] [color=black]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history. [/color][/color]
Not true, I think thats Clinton[/quote] [color=Red]You've definitely pulled this one out of thin air because I have the facts that contest the opposite. http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20031001.html <----That's the link. I'll get some key sentences for you.... [/color] [color=Red]"[/color][color=Red] What about Clinton? As of December 1999, President Bill Clinton had spent only 152 days on holiday during his two terms, according to CBS News. A former staffer noted Clinton was such a workaholic that "it almost killed Clinton to take one-week vacations during August." In 2000, Clinton cut his summer vacation short to just three days, so he and his wife could concentrate on her Senate race and fundraising for Democrats. While we couldn't find the exact tally for Clinton's last year in office, it's reasonable to expect he didn't increase his vacation rate. And in barely three years in office, George W. Bush has already taken more vacation than Clinton did in seven years." - From the link...Btw, Bush has spent 27% of his presidency on 'vacation'.[/color] [color=black]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history. [/color][/color]
Not the president's fault[/quote] [color=Red]It's not just his fault, but he did preside over it. The key word is preside. It never said anything about who's fault it was though. [/color] [color=black]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history. [/color][/color]
Not true, thats a different president
[color=Red]What president then? I believe he has. Anywhere he goes he raises money, or has dinners where the base cost to go is in the 1000s. He also takes huge sums of money from corporations for campaign purposes. [/color] [color=black][quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs. [/color][/color][color=SeaGreen] [/color] Due to the recession, not president's fault
[color=Red]It's due to the recession caused by the miserable failure of his economic plan/vision. Get that right next time. Clinton avoided recession because he walked that fine line of keeping both inflation and unemployment at the appropriate levels. Bush doesn't even know there's a line, let alone what inflation and unemployment are. You'll understand when you take economics your senior year in California highschool. smilie.gif[/color] [color=black][quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history. [/color][/color] Dont think thats true.
[color=Red]Do I care if you think it's true or not? What I know is unemployment has skyrocketed under Bush. If there was less unemployment Bush wouldn't have to cut unemployment benefits. [/color] [color=black][quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I set the all-time record for the most foreclosures in a 12-month period. [/color][/color][color=SeaGreen] [/color] President has nothin to do with that

[color=Red]Er, he does. The President affects everything that goes on in America, including the number of foreclosures..due to the economic state during his presidency, which he primarily creates. Read this article. Most foreclosures belongs to Bush. http://www.responsiblelending.org/news_headlines/nbcnightnews100703.cfm[/color] [color=black][quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history. [/color][/color] Not true. [color=Red]Well, since Bush is a criminal, I'd say there are the most criminals in any presidential administration ever...When you have criminals advising you, I'd say they aren't part of the administration, but they are a huge part of it. The examples are: Enron executives(who are convicted criminals) who helped formulate the bush/cheney energy plans, and Halliburton(cheney's company), which ripped off the US army for $60+ million in Iraq.[/color] [color=black][quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV. [/color][/color] Actually that would be Jackson [color=Red]Did you read the original sentence? Wow, you're an idiot. [/color] [color=black][quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history. [/color][/color] Not true [color=Red]Do you even know what an executive order is??? Oh, and btw, he has in reality. It's not just "democratic propaganda". [/color] [color=black][quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed. [/color][/color] Ok I will give u that one [color=Red]I'm glad you recognized that. But, not only did they not intervene, but they were a part of it. [/color] [color=black][quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have. [/color][/color] Thats not true, the presidents of the 70's during gas rationing presided over the highest prices. [color=Red]Hmm, but those presidents tapped into the reserves to put down the prices. Again, during the 70s there was a full oil embargo by the Arab states and Opec. That's why the prices were so high. There is no embargo now, so why are we having record high gas prices? We did invade a country for it's oil, shouldn't it be lower?[/color] [color=Red] The prices of today are just short of the prices from the 70s. [/color] http://corzine.senate.gov/press_office/record.cfm?id=221701 [color=black][quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I cut health care benefits for war veterans. [/color][/color] Not true. [color=Red]BULLSHIT that it's 'not true'. [/color] [color=Red]Here's Evidence Buddy, with completely credible sources. [/color] [color=Red]Bush VA Spending Fails To Grow With Health Care Costs -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Despite Bush's claims, "the annual percentage increase it requested for veterans' health care is 5.4 percent -- hardly a windfall considering that the consumer price index for medical care was 13 percent during fiscal year 2002. VA officials have testified that it would take a 13 to 14 percent hike in the VA's health care budget just to maintain the status quo." [Rep. Lane Evans (D-IL) Op-Ed, The Hill, 9/17/03] [/color] [color=Red]Veterans Forced To Wait Months For Initial Visits to VA Doctors At least 230,000 veterans are being forced to wait over six months for their initial visit to a doctor at the VA medical facilities. In some parts of the country veterans are waiting nearly two years for those visits. Bush's VA Secretary Anthony Principi has acknowledged the danger in these delays, stating "I'm concerned [the delays are] causing quality to be degraded." [/color] [color=Red]The "Independent Budget," an analysis of the VA budget provided by veterans groups, has said "The Department of Veterans Affairs health care system is in critical condition." Meanwhile, the Bush administration opposed a Senate addition to the Iraq supplemental bill that would have added $1.3 billion to veterans' health care. [Air Force Magazine, 10/02; http://www.pva.org/independentbudget/pdf/IB_04excsum.pdf; OMB Director Joshua Bolton to Rep. David Obey (D-WI), 10/21/03] [/color] [color=Red]Bush Administration Is Closing Seven Veterans Hospitals In early August 2003, the Bush administration announced it was closing hospitals in its efforts to "restructure" the Department of Veterans Affairs. The administration is closing hospitals in: [/color]

  • [color=Red]Canandaigua, N.Y.[/color]
  • [color=Red]Pittsburgh[/color]
  • [color=Red]Lexington, Ky.[/color]
  • [color=Red]Brecksville, Ohio[/color]
  • [color=Red]Gulfport, Miss.[/color]
  • [color=Red]Livermore, Calif.[/color]
  • [color=Red]Waco, Tex.[/color]

[color=Red]Joy Ilem, assistant national legislative director for Disabled American Veterans, "questioned the need for closures and other cutbacks. 'Everyone is aware of the difficulty VA has meeting demand,' Ilem said. 'When we have hundreds of thousands of veterans on waiting lists (for medical appointments), we don't want to see facilities closed due to fiscal problems.'" There are currently 163 VA hospitals in the US. [Associated Press, 8/4/03, 10/28/03; Department of Veterans Affairs] [/color] [color=Red]In mid-August, as Bush vacationed in Texas, a thousand veterans and supporters rallied in Waco, Texas to protest the closing of that VA hospital. The protestors met at the Waco School District football stadium parking lot "for a rally before driving the 22 miles to Crawford," where Bush was vacationing. "Veterans of Foreign Wars State Commander Ron Hornsby told the stadium crowd that the VA commissioner looking at closing hospitals could harm veterans all across the country, not just in Waco. 'We can never repay the veterans -- we hear those words a lot,' Hornsby said. 'At times like this, those words become very hollow, very meaningless.'" More than 1,500 vets joined a similar October rally to protest a VA closing in New York. [San Antonio Express-News, 8/17/03; Associated Press, 10/20/03, 10/28/03] [/color] [color=Red]Bush Proposed Doubling Costs Of Prescription Drugs For Veterans This year Bush proposed increasing prescription drugs costs for veterans. The Bush plan would have included a new $250 enrollment fee and a co pay increase from $7 to $15 for veterans earning over $24,000. On July 21, the House Appropriations Committee agreed to a Democratic amendment to reject the Bush fee increases and recoup the $264 million in costs by reducing administrative funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs. [Reuters, 7/14/03; Washington Post, 7/22/03] [/color] [color=Red]Bush Decided To Cut Benefits For Middle-Income Veterans On January 16, 2003, the Bush Administration announced it would cut access to health care benefits for 160,000 middle-income veterans due to budget constraints. John Pettyjohn, an Oklahoma veteran who served in Vietnam, said of the cuts, "On one hand, we're sending our sons and daughters out to war and possibly to die, yet on the other hand we're punishing a certain class of veterans who've made money in their lives. The government made a promise to us. What they're doing now is wrong." [Associated Press, 1/16/03; The Daily Oklahoman, 1/18/03] http://www.yesmagazine.org/26courage/indicatorsmith.htm <---Another article about Bush cutting veterans benefits. [/color]




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nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.[/color] Dont think so...[/quote] [color=Red]It is completely, and unavoidably true. Ask anyone outside the US if there were HUGE protests against him, and if there still are. 1000s did and do it here. [/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.[/color] Not true, thats Clinton[/quote][color=Red]Sorry, but despite your ignorance, it still goes to Bush. Why do you persist on blaming everything blindly on Clinton or Jackson?[/color] http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0720-03.htm [color=Red] Here's a list of international obligations(treaties, charters, etc) violated by Bush. Bush a treaty man? Hell no, read below. 1. In December 2001, the United States officially withdrew from the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty, gutting the landmark agreement-the first time in the nuclear era that the US renounced a major arms control accord. 2. 1972 Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention ratified by 144 nations including the United States. In July 2001 the US walked out of a London conference to discuss a 1994 protocol designed to strengthen the Convention by providing for on-site inspections. At Geneva in November 2001, US Undersecretary of State John Bolton stated that "the protocol is dead," at the same time accusing Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Sudan, and Syria of violating the Convention but offering no specific allegations or supporting evidence. 3. UN Agreement to Curb the International Flow of Illicit Small Arms, July 2001: the US was the only nation to oppose it. 4. April 2001, the US was not re-elected to the UN Human Rights Commission, after years of withholding dues to the UN (including current dues of $244 million)-and after having forced the UN to lower its share of the UN budget from 25 to 22 percent. (In the Human Rights Commission, the US stood virtually alone in opposing resolutions supporting lower-cost access to HIV/AIDS drugs, acknowledging a basic human right to adequate food, and calling for a moratorium on the death penalty.) 5. International Criminal Court (ICC) Treaty, to be set up in The Hague to try political leaders and military personnel charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. Signed in Rome in July 1998, the Treaty was approved by 120 countries, with 7 opposed (including the US). In October 2001 Great Britain became the 42nd nation to sign. In December 2001 the US Senate again added an amendment to a military appropriations bill that would keep US military personnel from obeying the jurisdiction of the proposed ICC. 6. Land Mine Treaty, banning land mines; signed in Ottawa in December 1997 by 122 nations. The United States refused to sign, along with Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Egypt, and Turkey. President Clinton rejected the Treaty, claiming that mines were needed to protect South Korea against North Korea's "overwhelming military advantage." He stated that the US would "eventually" comply, in 2006; this was disavowed by President Bush in August 2001. 7. Kyoto Protocol of 1997, for controlling global warming: declared "dead" by President Bush in March 2001. In November 2001, the Bush administration shunned negotiations in Marrakech (Morocco) to revise the accord, mainly by watering it down in a vain attempt to gain US approval. 8. In May 2001, refused to meet with European Union nations to discuss, even at lower levels of government, economic espionage and electronic surveillance of phone calls, e-mail, and faxes (the US "Echelon" program), 9. Refused to participate in Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)-sponsored talks in Paris, May 2001, on ways to crack down on off-shore and other tax and money-laundering havens. 10. Refused to join 123 nations pledged to ban the use and production of anti-personnel bombs and mines, February 2001 11. September 2001: withdrew from International Conference on Racism, bringing together 163 countries in Durban, South Africa 12. International Plan for Cleaner Energy: G-8 group of industrial nations (US, Canada, Japan, Russia, Germany, France, Italy, UK), July 2001: the US was the only one to oppose it. 13. Enforcing an illegal boycott of Cuba, now being made tighter. In the UN in October 2001, the General Assembly passed a resolution, for the tenth consecutive year, calling for an end to the US embargo, by a vote of 167 to 3 (the US, Israel, and the Marshall Islands in opposition). 14. Comprehensive [Nuclear] Test Ban Treaty. Signed by 164 nations and ratified by 89 including France, Great Britain, and Russia; signed by President Clinton in 1996 but rejected by the Senate in 1999. The US is one of 13 nonratifiers among countries that have nuclear weapons or nuclear power programs. In November 2001, the US forced a vote in the UN Committee on Disarmament and Security to demonstrate its opposition to the Test Ban Treaty. 15. In 1986 the International Court of Justice (The Hague) ruled that the US was in violation of international law for "unlawful use of force" in Nicaragua, through its actions and those of its Contra proxy army. The US refused to recognize the Court's jurisdiction. A UN resolution calling for compliance with the Court's decision was approved 94-2 (US and Israel voting no). 16. In 1984 the US quit UNESCO (UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) and ceased its payments for UNESCO's budget, over the New World Information and Communication Order (NWICO) project designed to lessen world media dependence on the "big four" wire agencies (AP, UPI, Agence France-Presse, Reuters). The US charged UNESCO with "curtailment of press freedom," as well as mismanagement and other faults, despite a 148-1 in vote in favor of NWICO in the UN. UNESCO terminated NWICO in 1989; the US nonetheless refused to rejoin. In 1995 the Clinton administration proposed rejoining; the move was blocked in Congress and Clinton did not press the issue. In February 2000 the US finally paid some of its arrears to the UN but excluded UNESCO, which the US has not rejoined. 17. Optional Protocol, 1989, to the UN's International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, aimed at abolition of the death penalty and containing a provision banning the execution of those under 18. The US has neither signed nor ratified and specifically exempts itself from the latter provision, making it one of five countries that still execute juveniles (with Saudi Arabia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Nigeria). China abolished the practice in 1997, Pakistan in 2000. 18. 1979 UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women. The only countries that have signed but not ratified are the US, Afghanistan, Sao Tome and Principe. 19. The US has signed but not ratified the 1989 UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which protects the economic and social rights of children. The only other country not to ratify is Somalia, which has no functioning government. 20. UN International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, 1966, covering a wide range of rights and monitored by the Committee on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. The US signed in 1977 but has not ratified. 21. UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, 1948. The US finally ratified in 1988, adding several "reservations" to the effect that the US Constitution and the "advice and consent" of the Senate are required to judge whether any "acts in the course of armed conflict" constitute genocide. The reservations are rejected by Britain, Italy, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, Greece, Mexico, Estonia, and others. 22. Is the status of "we're number one!" Rogue overcome by generous foreign aid to given less fortunate countries? The three best aid providers, measured by the foreign aid percentage of their gross domestic products, are Denmark (1.01%), Norway (0.91%), and the Netherlands (0.79), The three worst: USA (0.10%), UK (0.23%), Australia, Portugal, and Austria (all 0.26).[/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.[/color] Not true agian.[/quote][color=Red]Hmm, secretive and unaccountable? Yes. (Secret meetings with Enron about energy policy, and Cheney won't inform the public on what it's about) I think there's plenty of people who agree.[/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).[/color] Not true, that goes to Clinton.[/quote] [color=Red]Hey guess what? It's true. (Read below) --->It turns out this year that the Bush Cabinet is one of the richest ever. About a third of the 14 member cabinet — unlike in India, the US cabinet has a fixed strength — pull in more than $10 million annually. Ten of them are millionaires. Half of them have been CEOs. The richest cabinet official is the treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, the former CEO of the Aluminum giant Alcoa, who is worth between $67 million and $253 million, most of it held in stocks. Disclosure forms do not give specific price valuations for holdings, but instead require officials to state the price range of assets for e.g. stocks worth between 500,000 to $ 750,000, real estate between $1 million to 1.5 million etc. Running O'Neill close is Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, another former CEO (of G.D.Searle & Co and General Instrument Corporation) whose wealth is estimated at between $62 million and $116 million. At third place is vice-president Dick Cheney, former chief executive of Halliburton, worth between $22 million and $104 million. Surprisingly at fourth place is Secretary of State Colin Powell, who has not been a CEO (although one could call him a former COO of the US Armed Forces). Speaking gigs and book royalties among other income has swelled his kitty to between $15 million to $65 million. Commerce Secretary Don Evans, a former CEO of the oil and gas company Tom Brown Inc is worth between $10 million and $47 million.<--- Don't you feel embarrassed now?[/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.[/color] Horribly untrue.[/quote][color=Red]Really? Are you sure? Well, technically, when he destroyed our surplus(into more debt and a large deficit) and economy we all did go bankrupt. [/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.[/color] How is this the president's fault?[/quote][color=Red] He presided over it. He didn't do anything about it. It's partly his fault.[/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.[/color] Because they wouldnt enforce their own policies.[/quote] [color=Red]It's not a 'because' situation. Stop passing the blame elsewhere. The fact is he did do what's stated above. It's black and white and he did it.[/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.[/color] ???[/quote] [color=Red]I'll clarify things for you...It's true.[/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history.[/color] Because we are in war[/quote] [color=Red]But did he do what was stated? Yes. And it's not just solely because of the war. [/color]
ntiestryker[color=SeaGreen]I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.[/color] Dont think thats true[/quote] [color=Red]It is true. We were voted out of the UN Human Rights Commission by the 53 Member Board in the UN. It's outright factual. You can check for yourself, but you'll find this answer.[/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.[/color] Agian, dont think its true.[/quote] [color=Red]Again, check for yourself. We were removed.[/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.[/color] Um, so?[/quote] [color=Red]Um, do you understand the prinicples of the checks and balances system? I guess not... I'll sum it up for you b/c I'm nice. It's to keep one branch of government from gaining to much power, and to have the 3 branches check and balance eachother's power. It's what we were founded on, and what keeps our government fair, and not corrupt and too powerful. Looks like we're heading towards a dictatorship...[/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.[/color] It already was[/quote][color=Red]We're just as bad as other nations by bypassing the UN. We're as bad as Iraq, North Korea, Sudan since we bypassed something we pretty much created. We're huge hypocrites, wait, excuse me, not the American people, but Bush is. [/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I withdrew from the World Court of Law.[/color] What the hell is that?[/quote][color=Red] http://www.icj-cij.org/ <---Click to find out. Withdrawing from it is horrible...but, Bush did it![/color]
nitestryker[color=SeaGreen]I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.[/color] [color=Red] Actually not true at all. We let the Internat. Red Cross in quite a bit.[/quote] It's very true. We hid prisoners in Iraq, and we have not let inspectors check Guantanamo Bay fully, nor our Iraqi jails. If we had let them check, would the prisoner abuse scandal happened? No, probably not. We are basically telling the Geneva Convention to fuck off. Is that good? That's horrible. Bush is destroying something we helped create.[/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2000 US elections.[/color] Elections were verified as counting toward George Bush.
[color=Red]Gore won the popular vote. Bush and his brother, Jeb(the governor where all the shady election dealings and disaster happened - Florida) stole the election. Shouldn't the man with the majority vote win?[/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations. [/color] Not true, see Clinton agian.
[color=Red] http://www.laborresearch.org/story2.php/353 <---Read this, and you'll realize your statement was blatantly false and has no supporting evidence. I have the facts, therefore I am right, and I win.[/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation). [color=White] Ok that one may be true.[/color]
[color=Red]Hey, you agree?![/color][/color] [quote=nitestriker][color=SeaGreen]I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.[/color] Not true, thats Clinton agian.
[color=Red]What? It's getting old, this blaming Clinton shit. [/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1).[/color] What the hell? He didnt run and hide..thats blatently wrong.
[color=Red] He did say that though...I can't contest it... [/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government. [/color] If its a 'secret shadow' government, how do we kno about it then?
[color=Red] If JFK was assinated by more than 1 gunman, then how do we know about it? [/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).[/color] The world resents us because we didnt use constant diplomacy, which would have gotten us nowhere...we used force.
[color=Red]Read it again. The world was on our side with 9/11 and Afghanistan. They were rightfully so. Then Bush went to war in Iraq, which is completely unjustifiable and wrong. That's why they resent us.[/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.[/color] Pfft..so? Who cares what the Europeans think about the US? And what poll found this out?
[color=Red]It's true. What poll, every major one....CNN, AP, BBC, and about a 1000 others.. [/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.[/color] Dude..South Korea and America are allies...why would we threaten them?
[color=Red]Dude, you don't understand. The majority want us out of their country. They can handle it themselves, it's not 1951 anymore. They do have a special bond with North Korea because they want reconciliation and they are fellow Koreans...[/color] [quote=nitestryker]I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. Dont think so.
[color=Red]Halliburton, The Weir Group, KBR, etc, etc, etc. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25914-2004Jul29.html[/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.[/color] Mabey...
C[color=Red]heney, Cheney, Cheney, and the rest of his cabinet all did this.[/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war.[/color] Because you have the republicans who believed in the use of force and then the democrats who wanted diplomacy...and the statement isnt true...in the Civil War, the nation was more divided.
[color=Red]Bush has created a huge divide. The country is split 50/50. Your assesment of the statement was childish, ignorant, and plain stupid. About civil liberties and freedoms being removed under Bush. 2 words: PATRIOT ACT! [/color] [quote=nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.[/color] Not true....later years of clinton is when the economy started to drop and 9/11 tipped the scale
[color=Red]Bush killed the economy. Stop blaming shit on Clinton.[/color] [quote=Nitestryker][color=SeaGreen]You found this liberal crap on some stupid anti-Bush website. It makes outrageous claims with no proof. Its a bunch of crap. If you can prove every statement that u made in bold right then I will apoligze.....but over 3/4ths of that is FUBAR. God you must not be able to think for yourself if u find that list and think its true without checking facts.[/color]
[color=Red]You really are ignorant. Down to name calling and insulting people who disagree with you now? I can think for myself. A prime example is the fact that I don't take or always believe in the propaganda/info that is spoon fed to me by the government.[/color] [quote=nitestryker][QUOTE=Octovon] This is bound to bring some criticism from both Liberals and Conservatives alike. QUOTE] Gee...ya think? You mean there might be people who kno that this list is pure crap and can prove agianst over half of it? Wow....ur a smart fella

[color=Red]Lastly,pwned.gif.[/color] [color=Orange]All in the spirit of a good, heated debate. smilie.gif[/color]




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#10 14 years ago

This may be a little off topic but anyways. Zab, you do realize you are writing in black right? People with the darker skins cant read it.