Can a Muslim be a good American? 85 replies

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#1 11 years ago

Why and how do the muslims hate us (and everyone for that matter) so much?

Doesn't their god teach them to love?




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#2 11 years ago

Once more misconceptions about Islam and Muslims needs to be cleared up. What you have to understand is that Muslims in general are very peaceful people, no different from anyone else. They just want to live their lives as best as they can, and get on witht heir lives. It is only a small but loud minority that actually participates in things like terrorism. Islam is a very peaceful religion with much in common with Judaism and Christianity, and in reality is a very tolerant religion.




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#3 11 years ago

T_R, you clearly know very little about the average Muslim. So far, much of the exposure Americans are getting comes from TV and media, but that's misleading. Imagine if the only glimpse of Americans Muslims ever got was from shows like CSI, or news stories like the Beltway Snipers a few years ago. It'd spread a very inconsistent message. The Koran preaches respect for People of the Book, ie Christians and Jews, because they share the same God. Also, as a result of their culture, Muslims are generally very peaceful, family oriented, and patriotic. Allah's commandments are very philanthropic, and most Mulsims tithe huge amounts to the poor and lead very respectful lives. So yes, they can be Americans, and in a sense many of them can be better Americans than many white Christians. There are fanatics, extremists who abuse the religion. It'd be like a Christian taking the Old Testament seriously and justifying killing other cultures, and enslaving people from countries whose border you share. It's not mainstream at all.




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#4 11 years ago

I am going to be watching this closely.

It is radical islam that we need to watch out for....but, the cab driver who tried to run down two guys because of a disagreement on religion, i doubt he was a radical


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#5 11 years ago

Oh no, not this topic again...




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#6 11 years ago

I have muslims at my school and I don't see them hating anyone. Your just conditioned to think that way. If they do hate, its probably the US government, I don't blame them. But to answer your question, yes why not?




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#7 11 years ago

I am not going to hide the fact that a lot of Muslims hate the US.but that's not because of your freedom,its the foreign policies we have problems with. otherwise I have met Muslims who are Americans are proud of their nation. they really like the US and freedom it gives to its citizens.




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#8 11 years ago

Yes some sects of the Islam faiths impose harsh rules on their followers, and severly limit their freedoms.


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#9 11 years ago
Pb2Au;3548518T_R, you clearly know very little about the average Muslim. So far, much of the exposure Americans are getting comes from TV and media, but that's misleading. Imagine if the only glimpse of Americans Muslims ever got was from shows like CSI, or news stories like the Beltway Snipers a few years ago. It'd spread a very inconsistent message. The Koran preaches respect for People of the Book, ie Christians and Jews, because they share the same God. Also, as a result of their culture, Muslims are generally very peaceful, family oriented, and patriotic. Allah's commandments are very philanthropic, and most Mulsims tithe huge amounts to the poor and lead very respectful lives. So yes, they can be Americans, and in a sense many of them can be better Americans than many white Christians. There are fanatics, extremists who abuse the religion. It'd be like a Christian taking the Old Testament seriously and justifying killing other cultures, and enslaving people from countries whose border you share. It's not mainstream at all.

The only thing that caught my eye really pb was your comment "and in a sense many of them can be better Americans than many white Christians". HUH? Christians come in all colors and don't make this a racial issue when it's not.

I agree with your first paragraph untill the quran statements.

Christians, Jews ect. don't beleive in the moon god of Arabia and except other religions including Islam, which muslims do not.

And for being family oriented....wtf...I don't think most people (American or not) believe it should be legal to beat your wife if she disobeys you. C'mon, talk about taking the Old Testament serious, "it would be go to jail time".




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#10 11 years ago
Trojan_Ripper;3548669The only thing that caught my eye really pb was your comment "and in a sense many of them can be better Americans than many white Christians". HUH? Christians come in all colors and don't make this a racial issue when it's not.

Wasn't trying to, I was simply trying to convey the picture of a stereotypical American..

I agree with your first paragraph untill the quran statements.

It's an Arabic translation, Quran and Koran are both acceptable phonetic spellings, so if you prefer one there's no need to bold and underline it.

Christians, Jews ect. don't beleive in the moon god of Arabia and except other religions including Islam, which muslims do not.

If you're referring to the archaeological finds that suggest Allah stemmed from an indigenous Arabian moon god, that point is moot. The modern understanding of Allah is a monotheistic god which Muslims, Jews, and Christians alike all understand to be identical to God and Yahweh.

And for being family oriented....wtf...I don't think most people (American or not) believe it should be legal to beat your wife if she disobeys you. C'mon, talk about taking the Old Testament serious.

Neither do most Muslims. The vast majority don't do it, and it is Islamic law that you are supposed to take care of your wife and children as best you can. Again, it's a small, highly publicized portion taking a fundamentalist stance. Let me ask you something, how many Muslims have you ever met first-hand? Outside of news reports and TV, what experience do you have with Muslims/Islam/Arabs?