Canada's National childcare program 5 replies

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Dragokatzov

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#1 13 years ago

This is becoming an election issue. Both Martin and Harper have plans. I think I like Martins better though. Martin says he will deploy a standaridzed childcare program for the whole nation. like free kindergarden. And I am thinking of starting a family in the next 5 - 10 years, so this sounds good to me. Harpers plan is a lot more thoughtless and mindless IMO. Biscally he'll give you $1200 a year per kid under 6, i think. Which in theory isn't to bad, but, my worry is more irresponcible parents will use this money to but smokes, boose, drugs, or just blow it on their selfs. where if you have a federally sponcered childcare program, you have to take your kid to this place, and they will take care of them. I really like the Liberals plan better, what are your opinions?




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#2 13 years ago

Asuming you ar giving a correct discription of both plans (you might be biasd though :p ) I would go with the free kindergartens etc. Money into your hand/pocket isn't bad either but it easily can be used for the wrong things.

I would expect the liberals to be in favour of "money into your hand, for you to spent" idea though. That way you yourself can spent it on social needs that you prefer the most (or spent it on something completely different if you want, it's your money), a socialist party would probably go for the "free kindergartens" plan.




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#3 13 years ago

In the long run for the majority, setting aside money for specific things makes a bit more sense than getting it in one lump sum. It's tempting not to use it in a way that it was intended to be used. Might as well have a slightly larger paycheck and continue using the money as you always do. :uhm:




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#4 13 years ago

Never let the conservatives in power, all they want to do is strip the rights off my fellow native people. Needlessly messing us up even more lives destined to sexual/physical assualt and suicide, yeah like 500 years of torture, rape and murder wasn't bad enough. At least the Liberals are doing more for native people (at the moment) with their minimum 12000$ payment to all those residential school victems. My 2 cents




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#5 13 years ago

The kindergarden plan is being in effect on a provincial level Quebec for a few years, and it is having terrible problem because of its costs. Of course this could be dealt with by making their price more reasonable (8-10$ and hour instead of 5$). Anyways, the Liberals would be a much better governement than the Conservatives. The Conservatives are just being silly anyways. The "corrupt" liberal governement is not the same than during Chr├ętien's time, most of the really corrupt guys are gone. Canada's economy is generally doing well, and the Liberal at least are clear and modern when it comes to health care, gay rights and abortion. The conservatives are economically very wierd (lowering federal taxes? what the hell do they want to accomplish? yay, I will save a 2$ when I buy something that costs 100$?), plus this wierd "give some money to families with children" program will not be that effective anyhow. I won't decide to have children because of an additional 1200$ per year, thats ridiculous. But I'll probably vote for the NDP unless I decide to vote Liberal to kick that stupid Bloc Quebecois deputy out of my district (even if its hopeless, they have 70% votes here :( ).

To me the most stupid decision was to have elections in the first place. The Liberals will win, probably with a minority, but this election will still be useless. The conservatives are too retarded to win, the NDP is too small, the Greens are tiny and the Bloc cannot and does not want to win. We can't change governement if we don't have alternatives!

I would expect the liberals to be in favour of "money into your hand, for you to spent" idea though.

The current Liberal party of Canada is to the center left of the political ladder (altho they were to the center-right a few years ago), especially conscerning social issues like abortion and gay rights. The Conservatives are taking care of the right wing things. Our "social democrat" party, the NDP (New Democratic Party), is more left wing and radical than the Liberals. In my opinion, a Liberal-NDP alliance, like what we had for a few years, is currently the best thing.




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#6 13 years ago
Ensign RilesIn the long run for the majority, setting aside money for specific things makes a bit more sense than getting it in one lump sum. It's tempting not to use it in a way that it was intended to be used. Might as well have a slightly larger paycheck and continue using the money as you always do. :uhm:

It's all about sharing the costs, you might be able to pay for kindergarden in the first place but your neighbour perhaps not, distribute the costs and you're all set. That's the whole idea behind this all: To "take" the money from society and distribute it more equally so everybody has acces to basic things such as health care and in this case a kindergarden.

Keep in mind that "the kindergarden" is just part of the whole thing, to simply we only mention this word to discuss the entire program (whatever that might be).

The current Liberal party of Canada is to the center left of the political ladder (altho they were to the center-right a few years ago), especially conscerning social issues like abortion and gay rights. The Conservatives are taking care of the right wing things. Our "social democrat" party, the NDP (New Democratic Party), is more left wing and radical than the Liberals. In my opinion, a Liberal-NDP alliance, like what we had for a few years, is currently the best thin

Aha that explains it. Though being in favor of abortion and gay rights doesn't make you "more left winged" liberals always should b in favour of those since they want as few restrictions as possible. On the other hand they would see the goverment making sure every person can put his or her child in kindergarden (and other simular things) as "taking away MY money which *I* worked for!".